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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Power and performance [rockylee] by 62vetteefp
Sep 24, 2007 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 24, 2007 4:25 am)

Hey they are just rumors but if Caddy can put out a 600 hp engine in a vehicle like the CTS and keep it's high end feel then surely that cannot hurt GM.
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what really matters by sls002
Sep 24, 2007 (7:35 am)
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is torque, not horsepower. The torque that you get to the wheels determines the acceleration. There are rumors saying is that both the Corvette and the CTS will get a supercharged engine.
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Re: what really matters [sls002] by fintail
Sep 24, 2007 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 24, 2007 7:35 am)

Hmm...MB went that route 5 years ago...but have now gone back to normal...
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Re: what really matters [fintail] by sls002
Sep 24, 2007 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Sep 24, 2007 9:04 am)

I think MB best performance is the turbo V12. But, for the BMW M5 class, the AMG 6.3 V8 is very competitive (best in class).
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CTS vs. BMW?? by 62vetteefp
Sep 27, 2007 (8:12 am)
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The highest compliment I can pay the 2008 Cadillac CTS is that five minutes behind the wheel turned me into as big a jerk as when I test a new BMW.
 
The drivers of really good sport sedans aren't really rude, callous oafs. They just seem that way because their cars are so much quicker and more responsive than most of what's on the road.
 
They accelerate faster, brake later and turn more sharply than lesser vehicles.
 
It's like walking alongside a much taller person. They don't mean to leave you gasping for breath; they just cover more ground faster than you do.
 
That's not to say some BMW drivers aren't arrogant twits, but so are some of the people who drive vastly inferior brands, like ... No, I've made enough enemies for one morning.
 
The virtually all-new 2008 CTS is a terrific car, an excellent successor to the very good first-generation CTS that re-established Cadillac as a luxury brand to be reckoned with.
 
The 2008 CTS is better looking and much more luxurious and technically sophisticated than the car it replaces, able to stand alongside the BMW 3-series as the world's best sports sedan. In addition to the 3-series, the CTS's prime competition includes the Audi A4, Infiniti G35, Lexus GS 300 and Mercedes-Benz C-class.
We're talking real money here, but the CTS is a bargain in its class. According to Edmunds.com, comparable all-wheel drive models – the BMW 335xi, Infiniti M35X and Lexus GS350 AWD – run from $4,100 to $9,800 more than the CTS.
 
Only the Audi A4 Quattro, which will be replaced by a new model next year, came in with a lower sticker price, checking in at $450 less than a comparably equipped CTS.
Add advanced features like a hard drive to store music and navigation information and the best real-time traffic information system of any car I've tested, and the CTS is second to none in the speedy world of sports sedans.
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Re: CTS vs. BMW?? [62vetteefp] by sls002
Sep 27, 2007 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 27, 2007 8:12 am)

Is this your opinion, or did you copy it from somewhere? And if it is someone else's ideas, should you not credit them with either a link or at least the source?
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Re: CTS vs. BMW?? [sls002] by rockylee
Sep 27, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 27, 2007 9:23 am)

62' can't link up to his articles. He's always done this.
 
He's actually Bob Lutz, but don't say anything.
 
-Rocky
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Re: CTS vs. BMW?? [62vetteefp] by rockylee
Sep 27, 2007 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 27, 2007 8:12 am)

What the article is saying:
 
Bottom Line is the 2008 Cadillac CTS is the best ELLPS ever made to date. I'd prefer the stick version though.
 
Lemko, are you going to give one a test pal ?
 
-Rocky
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Re: CTS vs. BMW?? [rockylee] by imidazol97
Sep 27, 2007 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 27, 2007 9:31 am)

I stopped at the local dealer west and they were lusting after theirs. It was on the truck, they think, but the strike had begun and they didn't know if it was coming or not.
 
I drove across the road through the Toyo lot. They had lots of tundras. The one of several salesman waved at me as I drove by the front of the building like a near downtown Dayton street lady trying to lure me in, but I resisted. He probably hoped for a laydown deal so he could retail my beautiful crimson LeSabre and make a double profit.
 
The Tundras did NOT have contractor boxes on them. Most of the Tundras I've seen on the road are driven by women or men who look like insurance salesmen or office workers.

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