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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Power and performance [plekto] by sls002
Sep 22, 2007 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Sep 22, 2007 10:25 am)

I don't know how much power the 3.6 is designed for. If it is at large end of the basic design, then turbo or super charging may not work. A smaller bore may be required to get enough strength in the block - say 3.2 liters or so.
 
My supercharged 3800 in the 1995 Riviera was very powerful from a standing start. On snowy/icy/slippery streets it was hard to get started without spinning the tires, which meant that the traction control was always active until some speed was built up. On dry pavement it was OK. I am not fond of supercharging. A turbo charger should be slower to build up torque on slippery pavement though.
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Re: Dirt cheap DTS [cooterbfd] by sls002
Sep 22, 2007 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Sep 22, 2007 2:06 pm)

I remember when Cadillac announced that the 76 Eldorado convertible would be the last. I sort of wondered if buying one would be a good idea at the time. After production ended, there were a number of them advertised for sale for the next year or more. I think that they were not a good investment (unless you wanted a convertible to use).
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Re: Power and performance [plekto] by rockylee
Sep 22, 2007 (9:27 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Sep 22, 2007 10:25 am)

I'd rather have that than a CTS-V for driving around town(600 is just too much, really)
 
I don't think 600 hp. is to much.
 
-Rocky
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Re: Power and performance [rockylee] by sls002
Sep 23, 2007 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 22, 2007 9:27 pm)

As long as the CTS-V is a very limited production model, so that only a few are really on the streets, excessive horsepower is not really an issue. But my Corvettes (an 84 and an 86) were not good on slippery pavement, so the CTS-V is not something I would want. The CTS with the 3.6 engine is a well balanced vehicle for power, handling and fuel consumption. Cadillac thought that it needed a "V" series to compete with the "M" models of BMW and the "AMG" Mercedes models. The STS-V was a bit short of the mark, although it is more street worthy than the M5 or the CTS-V I think. Mercedes has outdone BMW though.
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Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [rayainsw] by 62vetteefp
Sep 23, 2007 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 8:19 am)

Has anyone heard if the CTS’s “platform” was engineered to accept a V8?
 
Same platform as the current STS so yes.
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Re: Power and performance [sls002] by rockylee
Sep 23, 2007 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 23, 2007 8:47 am)

Well the "V" will be upgraded enough to handle all that power. The old Vette's like most cars from the pre-90's aren't nearly as sophisticated as todays modern cars and can accomidate these new historic power numbers.
 
-Rocky
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Re: Power and performance [rockylee] by 62vetteefp
Sep 24, 2007 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 23, 2007 8:53 pm)

I think GM has the choice of two V8's for the Sigma platform. Rumors are that the V will have the small block V8 that is used in various forms thoughout GM or it could also get the new High feature V8 that is being developed. This is probably going to be available in the '09/'10 timeframe with some versions of it hitting 400 hp.
 
My bet is the CTS V's get the readily available small block V8 next year and the normal CTS as an engine option will get the Ultra V8 and then it will be used on the future STS/DTS replacement as standard.
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Re: Power and performance [62vetteefp] by rockylee
Sep 24, 2007 (4:25 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 24, 2007 4:17 am)

So you think it will be what the 6.2 for the "V" ?????
 
-Rocky
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Re: Power and performance [rockylee] by 62vetteefp
Sep 24, 2007 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 24, 2007 4:25 am)

Hey they are just rumors but if Caddy can put out a 600 hp engine in a vehicle like the CTS and keep it's high end feel then surely that cannot hurt GM.

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