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link title What was this sucker, like 50 grand new? And for the collectors (No pics) link title
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"But a V8 with 350 \ 350 ( HP \ TQ ) or more would put the CTS in a different ( acceleration ) class – and might allow legitimate acceleration comparison with a 335 or 535. . ." Without a stickshift available for this model, they might as well tack on a Landau roof and curb feelers.
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 21, 2007 8:24 am) The current CTS-v iteration ( only ) comes with a manual trans. So – there certainly seems to be a possibility that we will see another. . . - Ray Happy for those who prefer a manual to have that choice . . .
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 8:19 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 8:30 am) 2009 CTS-V slated for late Sept '08 arrival; no Tremac trans |
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 21, 2007 8:44 am) Well, with a curb weight closer to 3600 than 4000, and a ( um, somewhat underrated ) 300 \ 300 ( vs 304 \ 272 ) the BMW 335 acceleration has proven what I’d call significantly quicker in independent, published tests. The C+D test of a manual trans. 2008 CTS shows times nearly a second longer than the 335 to 60, and over a second less quick ( at almost 10 MPH slower terminal velocity ) in the Quarter Mile. IMHO, a difference of a half second or less might mean that they were comparable. Clearly no number ( or set of numbers ) completely describes any car – and acceleration is only one quantifiable aspect of ‘performance’ but the acceleration results strongly suggest to me that the 335 would feel much quicker, in typical street driving. Stepping out of a 2007 Corvette ( my Daily Driver ) and into the 335, I was very pleasantly surprised at the ‘thrust’ available from the TT I6. Even with another 175+ ( guess ) pounds of ‘ballast’ added by the BMW sales dweeb during my test drive. Again, does not mean that the 335 & CTS are not comparable, overall – just in my opinion, the acceleration aspect is not very close. I can see other areas where they are more nearly comparable. - Ray Sources: http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/13548/tested-2007-bmw-335i-coupe-automatic- - - -performance-payoffs-page3.html 0 – 60 = 4.9 Quarter = 13.4  106 ( That’s with the six speed automatic = slightly quicker results than their test with the six speed manual trans. ) http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/13537/full-test-2008-cadillac-cts.html 0 – 60 = 5.8 Quarter = 14.6 97
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 21, 2007 8:22 am) That Eldo is probably only about 4x market value.
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 9:43 am) The CTS has excellent performance with either engine. BMW has been forced into turbocharging to keep up with the competition, as they can't fit a longer inline six without moving the firewall back into the passenger compartment and moving the rear passengers into the trunk.
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 21, 2007 3:10 pm) 
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Replying to: plekto (Sep 21, 2007 8:46 pm) -Rocky |
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