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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 2:52 pm) I never said that.  I have never been in the new CTS much less drive one so I cannot make that kind of determination. I asked that since the CTS is about 5 size could it stand in the same league as the 5 at a much lower price and would the media do comparisons that way. It looks like it may have a couple issues that make it perfect in that range, but then again it is $20k cheaper or so.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 21, 2007 3:30 am) |
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Cadillac has positioned the CTS as an entry level sports sedan. I do not think that they can turn around in a year or two, and make it a luxury sports sedan. In the event that they dump the STS, then an upgraded CTS might move somewhat up market. To do that I think the interior would need some improvement, a bit more wood trim, less bright metal. However, more of the STS's equipment would need to be available, like the adaptive cruise control and a V8 engine.
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 21, 2007 6:26 am) You raise a question that I have been meaning to ask here: Has anyone heard if the CTS’s “platform” was engineered to accept a V8? Edit: A ‘regular’ CTS – it appears a given that there will be a CTS-v – with a V8. I happened to drive a BMW 335 sedan a few weeks ago – and had planned to drive a 2008 CTS immediately after. The acceleration ( TQ ) of the 335 convinced me that driving a CTS right then would be ( um ) unfair to the CTS. But a V8 with 350 \ 350 ( HP \ TQ ) or more would put the CTS in a different ( acceleration ) class – and might allow legitimate acceleration comparison with a 335 or 535. . . Anyone heard? Speculation? Thanks, - Ray Finding no answer with a couple of Google searches . . .
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link title What was this sucker, like 50 grand new? And for the collectors (No pics) link title
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"But a V8 with 350 \ 350 ( HP \ TQ ) or more would put the CTS in a different ( acceleration ) class – and might allow legitimate acceleration comparison with a 335 or 535. . ." Without a stickshift available for this model, they might as well tack on a Landau roof and curb feelers.
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 21, 2007 8:24 am) The current CTS-v iteration ( only ) comes with a manual trans. So – there certainly seems to be a possibility that we will see another. . . - Ray Happy for those who prefer a manual to have that choice . . .
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 8:19 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 8:30 am) 2009 CTS-V slated for late Sept '08 arrival; no Tremac trans |
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 21, 2007 8:44 am) Well, with a curb weight closer to 3600 than 4000, and a ( um, somewhat underrated ) 300 \ 300 ( vs 304 \ 272 ) the BMW 335 acceleration has proven what I’d call significantly quicker in independent, published tests. The C+D test of a manual trans. 2008 CTS shows times nearly a second longer than the 335 to 60, and over a second less quick ( at almost 10 MPH slower terminal velocity ) in the Quarter Mile. IMHO, a difference of a half second or less might mean that they were comparable. Clearly no number ( or set of numbers ) completely describes any car – and acceleration is only one quantifiable aspect of ‘performance’ but the acceleration results strongly suggest to me that the 335 would feel much quicker, in typical street driving. Stepping out of a 2007 Corvette ( my Daily Driver ) and into the 335, I was very pleasantly surprised at the ‘thrust’ available from the TT I6. Even with another 175+ ( guess ) pounds of ‘ballast’ added by the BMW sales dweeb during my test drive. Again, does not mean that the 335 & CTS are not comparable, overall – just in my opinion, the acceleration aspect is not very close. I can see other areas where they are more nearly comparable. - Ray Sources: http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/13548/tested-2007-bmw-335i-coupe-automatic- - - -performance-payoffs-page3.html 0 – 60 = 4.9 Quarter = 13.4  106 ( That’s with the six speed automatic = slightly quicker results than their test with the six speed manual trans. ) http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/13537/full-test-2008-cadillac-cts.html 0 – 60 = 5.8 Quarter = 14.6 97
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