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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Below the CTS? [british_rover] by 62vetteefp
Sep 20, 2007 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 20, 2007 9:56 am)

For almost sure they are not union made or in the states. Most likely Mexico. Lear alone has 11 plants in Mexico. Could also be JCI or others.
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Re: CTS review [62vetteefp] by sls002
Sep 20, 2007 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 20, 2007 9:24 am)

Car & Drive did not do a comparison test, Automobile did. Motor Trend's test was not a comparison either.
 
Automobile did not say the interior was bad, only a bit overdone, but still much better than the old. Motor Trend indicates that the DI engine has a noise, vibration, hashness problem, that GM has indicated there is no solution for, short of an entirely new engine design.
 
You are the one who thought that the CTS was now ready to take over the BMW 5-series, Mercedes E-class market.
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Re: CTS review [sls002] by rockylee
Sep 21, 2007 (2:16 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 2:52 pm)

LOL.....MT is a joke !!!!!
 
Motor Trend->Japanese=Good
                    
Motor Trend->GM=Bad
 
 
 
-Rocky
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Re: CTS review [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Sep 21, 2007 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 2:52 pm)

You are the one who thought that the CTS was now ready to take over the BMW 5-series, Mercedes E-class market.
 
I never said that. I have never been in the new CTS much less drive one so I cannot make that kind of determination. I asked that since the CTS is about 5 size could it stand in the same league as the 5 at a much lower price and would the media do comparisons that way. It looks like it may have a couple issues that make it perfect in that range, but then again it is $20k cheaper or so.
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Re: CTS review [62vetteefp] by sls002
Sep 21, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 21, 2007 3:30 am)

My bad, I guess louiswei is the one who made that claim. However, when I said the interior would need an upgrade, you came back in post 3524 agreeing with louiswei that it was all done.
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CTS marketing by sls002
Sep 21, 2007 (6:26 am)
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Cadillac has positioned the CTS as an entry level sports sedan. I do not think that they can turn around in a year or two, and make it a luxury sports sedan. In the event that they dump the STS, then an upgraded CTS might move somewhat up market. To do that I think the interior would need some improvement, a bit more wood trim, less bright metal. However, more of the STS's equipment would need to be available, like the adaptive cruise control and a V8 engine.
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V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [sls002] by rayainsw
Sep 21, 2007 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 21, 2007 6:26 am)

“However, more of the STS's equipment would need to be available, like the adaptive cruise control and a V8 engine.”
 
You raise a question that I have been meaning to ask here:
 
Has anyone heard if the CTS’s “platform” was engineered to accept a V8?
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A ‘regular’ CTS – it appears a given that there will be a CTS-v – with a V8.
 
I happened to drive a BMW 335 sedan a few weeks ago – and had planned to drive a 2008 CTS immediately after. The acceleration ( TQ ) of the 335 convinced me that driving a CTS right then would be ( um ) unfair to the CTS.
 
But a V8 with 350 \ 350 ( HP \ TQ ) or more would put the CTS in a different ( acceleration ) class – and might allow legitimate acceleration comparison with a 335 or 535. . .
 
Anyone heard?
Speculation?
 
Thanks,
- Ray
Finding no answer with a couple of Google searches . . .
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Dirt cheap DTS by anythngbutgm
Sep 21, 2007 (8:22 am)
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link title
 
What was this sucker, like 50 grand new?
 
And for the collectors (No pics)
 
link title
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Meh by anythngbutgm
Sep 21, 2007 (8:24 am)
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"But a V8 with 350 \ 350 ( HP \ TQ ) or more would put the CTS in a different ( acceleration ) class – and might allow legitimate acceleration comparison with a 335 or 535. . ."
 
Without a stickshift available for this model, they might as well tack on a Landau roof and curb feelers.
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Re: Meh [anythngbutgm] by rayainsw
Sep 21, 2007 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 21, 2007 8:24 am)

"Without a stickshift available for this model, they might as well tack on a Landau roof and curb feelers. "
 
The current CTS-v iteration ( only ) comes with a manual trans.
So – there certainly seems to be a possibility that we will see another. . .
- Ray
Happy for those who prefer a manual to have that choice . . .

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