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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 20, 2007 6:48 am) It is far more likely that machines are used, but someone make be guiding them. My SRX has leather covered seats. I am not sure that there is leather anywhere else though. The dash is covered with a softish material, with a finish that does not look leatherish. The armrests could be covered with leather - not sure. However, there are stiches visible even on hard plasic parts... http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MediaNav/articleId=117281/firstNav=Gallery/- photoId=32522 In the above picture, the light colored stuff on the console is hard plastic, which has stiching... I will comment on my SRX door panels. The material used under the windows is the same stuff on the dash, and has a softish feel to it. Under this is a piece of wood trim (real I think), and then there is a soft trim material which could be vinyl or leather, with stiches in it. Then there is the armrest. Below the armrest on the front doors is a storage bin (a nice touch), but this is hard plasic. With the doors closed, the lower part of the door is not all that visible, so the hard plastic is not a big deal. In the good old days, eBay Motors has a lot of good picture, GM luxury door panels were covered with soft vinyl from the armrest down, with the lowest part covered with carpet. I think the addition of storage bins in todays cars is better than a soft vinyl armrest to extended downward, but the hard plastic could have a bit of carpet covering it.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 20, 2007 5:02 am) Reminds me of one of those advertising 'stories' in recent mags, or a Sunday paper 'review'. |
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 6:44 am) Every article from the media I read says the CTS interior is top notch. So it must be that they are all reading the same GM pitch and writing down what they are told to write. Darn that C&D and the rest of them, bought out by GM. The only one I heard of that says anything somewhat bad (except for a poorly located cupholder) is the Automobile mag which I have not read. The car has been out for awhile and there are all kinds of media stories out there. Can anybody find a link that supports a deficient interior in the CTS? |
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 20, 2007 6:48 am) Do you have any info on this? I really doubt it and cannot find where they are doing it.
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 8:13 am)  They are probably made just like the seats. Most of the seat sources (Lear, JCI, etc.) have a plant in Mexico or some other low paid nation with a bunch of people using sewing machines to stich the seats together. In there own right they are craftsman. The same sources make the interior IP and doors so they are probably also sewing the parts. http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/model/gallery.jsp?model=cts&year=2008&id=3&p- rimary=4 Per the website they call it stiched accents so probably some of the interior is vinyl. And today the vinyls used are hard to tell from leather and in some cases even have a better hand. i.e. silk infused leather |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 20, 2007 9:25 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 20, 2007 9:56 am) |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 20, 2007 9:24 am) Automobile did not say the interior was bad, only a bit overdone, but still much better than the old. Motor Trend indicates that the DI engine has a noise, vibration, hashness problem, that GM has indicated there is no solution for, short of an entirely new engine design. You are the one who thought that the CTS was now ready to take over the BMW 5-series, Mercedes E-class market.
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 2:52 pm) Motor Trend->Japanese=Good Motor Trend->GM=Bad  -Rocky |
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 20, 2007 2:52 pm) I never said that.  I have never been in the new CTS much less drive one so I cannot make that kind of determination. I asked that since the CTS is about 5 size could it stand in the same league as the 5 at a much lower price and would the media do comparisons that way. It looks like it may have a couple issues that make it perfect in that range, but then again it is $20k cheaper or so.
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