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#3501 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [sls002]
Sep 16, 2007 (5:50 pm)
Bose 5.1 Studio Surround Sound is not found on DTS, either is Magnetic Ride Control, privacy glass (I know small),
The 2008 STS debuts the latest StabiliTrak stability-control system, which now includes programming that does what youíre told to do when the rear wheels start slipping: actively steer into the skid. Thatís right, StabiliTrak now steers as well as pulses individual brakes to maintain the presumed correct course. First a Lexus that parks itself; now a Cadillac that countersteers into a slide. Whatís next? A manual transmission that shifts itself? Oh, wait!
To be fair, the advantage of the new StabiliTrak stems from the ability of stability-control systems to detect a skid earlier than most drivers, and itís likely that by making minor steering corrections in the process early on, StabiliTrak could prevent certain accidents that regular stability-control systems might not be able to catch. Now, we imagine enthusiasts might have a different opinion of this ďadvancement,Ē trying as it is to get in on our fun before stamping it out altogether, but weíll have to see just how intrusive it is before we join (or lead) that chorus. Other new technologies include a lane-departure warning system and blind-spot sensors.
I know I'm leaving out a few others but you get the picture !!!!!
#3502 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [rockylee]
Sep 17, 2007 (4:26 am)
The STS is the Flagship sedan of the Cadillac line-up pal. It has the most bells and whistles aka "Gadgetology" available. In fact the 08' STS, has the most gadgets found on any GM car.
It may be to you but the guy buying the DTS thinks he is getting the flagship because it is huge and drives down the street in real "big" style. I know owners of both and they are a different breed.
#3503 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [sls002]
Sep 17, 2007 (4:27 am)
The DTS is for people who want a big FWD sedan.
Actually the DTS is for people who want a BIG sedan. They do not care if it is FWD/RWD/AWD.
#3504 of 6195 Strange Dream...
Sep 17, 2007 (4:40 am)
...I had a dream last night that I bought a new DTS in White Diamond. It looked a lot like the car I test drove earlier this summer. It was pretty realistic as I was transferring my stuff from my current car to the new one. I wonder if this is an omen? To be brutally honest, the only way I'd be doing this now is if my Seville STS was stolen or destroyed in an accident. I like being free of car payments.
#3505 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [rockylee]
Sep 17, 2007 (6:24 am)
Well you are incorrect about the magnetic ride, which is standard on the top of the line DTS. Magnetic ride is not generally available on the STS. Only the top package STS gets magnetic ride. The rear wheels on the DTS are not likely to start slipping...
The DTS has a bose centerpoint surround sound (perhaps more advanced than 5.1?).
#3506 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [62vetteefp]
Sep 17, 2007 (6:57 am)
Well yes and no. I would agree for people who do not care too much about the technical bits, the DTS is for the big car buyer, but the Town Car is too, and somehow I don't think the Mercedes S-class consumer will really think seriously about a DTS. However, the STS might be considered. But the S-class consumer is looking at much more luxurious levels of trim, so Cadillacs are probably not quite on the level for consideration.
#3507 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [62vetteefp]
Sep 17, 2007 (7:02 am)
I think if big and dominating is important, the SRX is taller than either the DTS or STS, and the rear seats may be more comfortable than the DTS too. The SRX will handle snow better too (I think, will see after we get some unless snow is gone forever with global warming). The SRX is really not a sedan though, and the Escalade is really bigger yet, but more of a truck than the SRX.
What I see in the DTS is a dead end product line, that will soon be replaced with a RWD sedan. The DTS is a nice FWD sedan, but the Lucerne is basically the same thing for less money.
#3508 of 6195 series hierarchy
Sep 17, 2007 (7:22 am)
In the sixties the deVille was the big seller, and was clearly the mid-priced sedan. The top of the line were the Fleetwood models including the Eldorado (which was really not always a Fleetwood model. In the late 90's the Seville was the last of what were the Fleetwood models, but the DeVille seem to be on a par with the Seville (at least in the DHS trim). When the STS became the luxury sport sedan with a very wide price range, the DTS was sort of in the middle of the STS price range. The two cars are completely different models for different customers. I am not sure where Cadillac is going with the next generation of DTS/STS. There is talk of putting them both on the same RWD platform, with perhaps a short wheelbase model being the sport sedan, and a longer wheelbase model a luxury sedan. An even longer model could become something like the old Fleetwood sixty special, but that is my thought.
Right now the CTS is clearly the low end Cadillac. The rest are more mid-priced Cadillacs. A high end Cadillac really does not exist.
#3509 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [sls002]
Sep 17, 2007 (7:32 am)
What I see in the DTS is a dead end product line, that will soon be replaced with a RWD sedan
That may be true but the old guys driving caddy's think the DTS is the one for them. Not some SUV/Station Wagon thingy or the small looking STS. Big is baddddd. (of course they would never think of bad in that definition)
#3510 of 6195 Re: If Cadillac wants to be the standard of the world... [62vetteefp]
Sep 17, 2007 (7:49 am)
Certainly the DTS is Cadillac's biggest sedan. However, the Lincoln Towncar is bigger, if bigger is important. If baddddd is important, then the Escalade is something to consider. I think for the old set, Cadillac is an icon, and the deVille (dts) is iconic. Devilles were best sellers for Cadillac from the late 50's through the 90's. CTS sales are nearly on a par with DTS now and the 2008 CTS may take over.