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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS [plekto] by bumpy
Jul 31, 2007 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 31, 2007 9:02 am)

There's a huge difference, though, between 2200-2400rpm and 1200-1600rpm in actual use.
 
Who would want to drive at 1200-1600 rpm?
 
As for the rest of it, it sounds like a torque converter is a death sentence for a good engine and a good reason to avoid the slushbox. Now, where's that manual Lacrosse?
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Re: First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS [bumpy] by plekto
Jul 31, 2007 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 31, 2007 9:34 am)

Oh dear lord I wish GM made a LaCrosse with a manual...
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Re: First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS [bumpy] by rayainsw
Jul 31, 2007 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 31, 2007 9:34 am)

“Who would want to drive at 1200-1600 rpm?”
 
Me, for 1.
 
My Corvette, in sixth gear shows 1600 RPM at approx. 73 MPH. A cruising speed I often find comfortable. Returning 30+ MPG. 80 MPH is approx. 1750 RPM.
 
But who’s counting . . .
 
- Ray
Happy at low RPM, cruising & happy at high RPM accelerating ( um ) briskly . . .
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Re: First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS [rayainsw] by bumpy
Jul 31, 2007 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jul 31, 2007 10:04 am)

Oh, a pushrod sure. They should have a little graphic of Mister Scott pop up on the HUD saying "She'll fly apart, cap'n!" every time the tach goes above 3500 rpm.
 
But who would want to run a DOHC V6 that slowly? That's like asking a thoroughbred to do a mule's job.
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Re: First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS [bumpy] by british_rover
Jul 31, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 31, 2007 10:20 am)

That might be true of most pushrod engines but the new vette motors are not one of them.
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Re: First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS [bumpy] by sls002
Jul 31, 2007 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 31, 2007 10:20 am)

My SRX V8 with six speed slush box cruises 70 MPH with the engine running at about 1800 RPMs. It does kick down on up hills to 5th with the engine bumping up to 2200 or so. I averaged about 21 MPG on a long trip (it is still new though).
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perceptions by sls002
Aug 05, 2007 (8:43 am)
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Consider the following: take a pushrod engine - lets say this one:
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2008/HPT%20Library/HVV6/20- - - 08_39L_LZG_Impala.pdf
Would re-engineering the valve train to have a DOHC instead of the single cam in block change anything? What I mean is to keep the two valve per cylinder design, with the same intake manifold and the same valve timing. I think below 6000 RPM's there would be no change in performance, torque or horsepower. Above 6000 RPM's the DOHC might possibly have bit more power, but with the peak horsepower at 5600 RPMs, it is more a question of falling off more slowly, not resulting in more horsepower.
 
The point of course is that with a DOHC design, one would have 4 valve per cylinder and separate VVT on the intake and exhaust valves. Then one gets something like this:
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2008/HPT%20Library/HFV6/20- - 08_36L_LY7_CTS.pdf
 
The big difference between these two engines is the extra valves with the intake and exhaust timing variation independant of each other. The pushrods are irrelavant, except that they probably make putting more than two valves per cylinder difficult or of little real value.
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P.I.T.A.! by lemko
Aug 06, 2007 (9:10 am)
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I just noticed one of the license plate lamps was out on my 2002 Seville STS last night as I was putting it away. To replace this tiny 194 bulb one has to remove the fabric lining from the decklid, unfasten at least eight wing nuts and remove the entire taillamp cluster spanning the width of the decklid. Whatever happened to the days of simply removing a lens with a phillips screwdriver to access the bulbs? An unexperienced person would've given up and taken the car to the dealer at unnecessary expense to replace a bulb or ended up breaking the cluster which must be very expensive to replace.
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Re: P.I.T.A.! [lemko] by bumpy
Aug 06, 2007 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Aug 06, 2007 9:10 am)

Cadillac owners aren't supposed to change their own bulbs. They're supposed to drive to the dealer, walk up to the service desk, pull out their money clip and throw a handful of Benjamins on the counter, and declare, "That should cover it, and Armor All the tires."
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Re: P.I.T.A.! [bumpy] by sls002
Aug 06, 2007 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 06, 2007 10:41 am)

My experience is that light bulbs don't burn out that often. The cost for a half hours work at my dealership is about $35, which may seem a bit much, but for a bulb that lasted 5 years...
 
Of course if all the bulbs are starting to go one by one...
 
I doubt that Chevy light bulbs are easily changed either...

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