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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: mediapusher (Jul 14, 2007 8:57 pm) There were no European cars that could have been taken apart, with two other cars like it, and then, after mixing up the parts, put together three new cars from the parts of the three old cars. However, Ford model A's or T's (not sure which might have been in production) could have done just as well as Cadillac's. |
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=101188 Article Comments - 2008 Cadillac CTS First Drive http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f149765/0 -Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Jul 28, 2007 12:16 am) Looks like a nice ride, I can't see why anyone would buy a current one now.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 28, 2007 8:47 am) -Agree Fintail......I guess the attractive lease deals and incentives have helped some take the plunge. -Rocky
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 28, 2007 8:47 am) torque/hp curve: http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/graytabcontroller.jsp?graytabtype=1&rp- oid=36105&vehicleid=4824®ionID=1§ion=oi_def |
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Replying to: rockylee (Jul 29, 2007 12:18 am) It's a very VERY good used car. 15-16K for a few year old example and well, it's SO much better than, what, a Fit or a new Corolla? EDIT: The new DI - look at that - diesel flat torque. Now compare that to a typical Toyota or Honda engine. (evil grin). That means you get full power at any speed or gear, as long as the pedal is down more than 1/4 the way.(probably 1/8th for most around town driving) Most people are going to be shocked. That's the flattest torque curve GM has ever made.
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 29, 2007 9:21 am)  -Rocky |
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 29, 2007 9:21 am) I am going to Vegas in a couple weeks, I see you can rent CTS there. I'd almost think about it.
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Replying to: plekto (Jul 29, 2007 9:21 am) That's an artifact of the inflated torque scale on the chart. 700 foot-pounds? Come on, it's not a diesel. It's running 220 ft-lb at 1200 rpm (80% of peak), which isn't anything to get excited about these days. And what's with the VTEC-looking dip in the low 3000s? This is what a flat torque curve looks like. 11.3 is pretty low compression for direct injection. 12 is about as low as any self-respecting engine builder should go.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 29, 2007 2:31 pm) Rent a CTS-V and see how it compares to the E55.
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