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Re: So after 3300+ posts [gagrice] by british_rover
Jul 15, 2007 (4:05 pm)
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What do you think about the LX570 equals over inflated RAV4?
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [british_rover] by gagrice
Jul 15, 2007 (5:25 pm)
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I think most all the SUVs have gone down hill in appearance. I like heavy duty frames and steel bumpers. The LX570 will have to be a big improvement over the last model to compete with the Escalade for handling and performance. To me the Land Rover and G500 from Mercedes are the only true luxury SUVs available in the USA. I doubt the LC/LX would hold up under the abuse an SUV should be built to sustain.
 
I really do not like the looks of the RAV4. I think the CR-V is better looking. I think sales bear that out. I did go and sit in the Cadillac SRX. I liked the full length moon roof. I would not buy one as it is too small for my taste.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [gagrice] by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2007 (3:54 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2007 3:30 pm)

I agree the truck makes little sense. I see a quite a few of them
 
Ahh, the truck makes little sense (avalanche/EXT), that is why we so many of them.
 
The truck is a great truck for a contractor that needs the bed for his work stuff (with covered storage) AND needs the 2nd row seat for family, or workers, and if he sometimes hauls long items.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [62vetteefp] by british_rover
Jul 16, 2007 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 16, 2007 3:54 am)

Ok if you have ever actually seen a contractor driving a Avalanche/EXT and actually using it to haul stuff I will eat my breakfast plate.
 
There are plenty of other trucks that would make better use of the Crew Cab covered bed design then the EXT.
 
The handful of them that I see that are actually owned by business people, taking the 6,000 lbs write off I am sure, that might actually use them as work vehicles aren't carrying anything bigger then a blueprint in the truck.
 
The only version of this truck more stupid then the Caddy version is the Hummer one. The H2 SUT has a bed that is less then three feet long. Even with the midgate down it is only about 6 feet long and then you can only put long thin objects into the truck.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [british_rover] by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2007 (4:16 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 16, 2007 4:06 am)

Ok if you have ever actually seen a contractor driving a Avalanche/EXT and actually using it to haul stuff I will eat my breakfast plate.
 
The guy who built my house drives the avalanche and swears by it. It is both his work truck and his personal vehicle (his wife has the 2nd vehicle). Have a good snack.
 
I was going to buy one also when I was going to go into a venture installing closet systems because it would be perfect for me. However I decided not to go into it.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [62vetteefp] by british_rover
Jul 16, 2007 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 16, 2007 4:16 am)

The guy who built my house drives the avalanche and swears by it. It is both his work truck and his personal vehicle (his wife has the 2nd vehicle). Have a good snack.
 
Yum Fiber...
 
I have never ever seen an Avalanche hauling anything in the bed let alone being used for work. They just aren't that popular in the Northeast though. I can't remember the last time I saw an avalanche on the road that wasn't on a dealer plate. There is a chevy dealer nearby me that only sells Trucks/Suvs, Vettes and Harleys along with assorted used cars so I see them on his front line sometimes.
 
The last time I saw an EXT was a year and a half ago when I was appraising one for trade on a Range Rover.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [british_rover] by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2007 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 16, 2007 5:23 am)

have never ever seen an Avalanche hauling anything in the bed let alone being used for work
 
Maybe because the cover is covering? He mostly uses it for hauling his power tools and stuff. The cover covers the stuff for securty. Otherwize he would have a pickup with a cap.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [62vetteefp] by british_rover
Jul 16, 2007 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 16, 2007 5:29 am)

I never see these trucks period. Like I said the last time I remember seeing a EXT was over a year ago.
 
I can't remember the last time I saw an Avalanche that wasn't a dealers car.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [62vetteefp] by gagrice
Jul 16, 2007 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 16, 2007 5:29 am)

I just don't like all the foo foo plastic add-ons. I was looking forward to the Avalanche when it first came out. When I saw it at the fair I almost threw up I thought it was so ugly. I see more of them in So CA than I would like to. Including the Caddy and Lincoln PU trucks.
 
TO each his own I guess. No dumber looking that the big 22inch wheels and tires on half the Vehicles down here.
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [british_rover] by steve_ HOST
Jul 16, 2007 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 16, 2007 4:06 am)

My nephew down in the Nashville area is a home contractor. He drives an Avalanche - loves all the lockable cubbies for hauling tools and stuff. He doesn't haul much in the way of building supplies in it - the supply companies deliver most of that stuff to the job site.
 
He carries a lot of paperwork in his too. He'd probably like an Escalade just fine though.

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