Is Cadillac's Image Dying and Does Anyone Care?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News

    

#3422 of 6186 Re: I sincerely hope... [lemko] by mediapusher

Jul 14, 2007 (9:33 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 29, 2007 7:03 am)
That's because instead of the same old trite nonsense that they had been doing before, the CTS was a fresh idea from the ground up, designed by automobile enthusiasts, tested and driven by American and European professionals with accolades.
 
The Catera, technically wasn't even a Cadillac persay. It was a cosmetically engineered car imported from Germany (Opel). It was a mediocre version of the car at best, which may have been fine in Germany, but was plagued with maintenance nightmares once Cadillac got their hands on it. On top of that the Catera's styling was far too bland. It ranked right "up there" with the Cimarron.
 
The Cimmarron, puhleeez, what an embarrassing example of cosmetic engineering that was. It should have never went into production. It was Cadillac's version of a Chevy Cavalier. The only one who was fooled by it was General Motors, certainly not the public or the automotive press.
 
You're wrong about the Cadillac Escalade. It still remains a top seller and status symbol for Cadillac. As long as people continue to buy it, they'll make it, environmentally friendly or not. And Toyota/Lexus does make an SUV out of one of their trucks. It's called a Toyota Land Cruiser or Lexus LX470.
 
The XLR may seem weird to some people, but this car isn't meant for tons of people to be able to afford it, and it's definitely an eye turner and perfect for someone that grows money on trees and wants something a little different than what's already out there, even if it does need refinement. I've heard it is not as exciting to drive as a Corvette and has some problems that one just shouldn't find on an $80,000 car. Face it, it's a rich man's toy.
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Cadillac CTS is a quantum leap over the abyssmal Cimmaron and mediocre Catera. The 2008 CTS looks even better. Hope to see it in the metal soon!
 
Cadillac Escalade truck - get rid of this stupid anachronism! It might've made sense back in the 1990s, but it's an embarrassment today. You don't see Toyota making a Lexus truck out of the Tundra!

#3423 of 6186 Re: How Cadillac can upset... [lemko] by mediapusher

Jul 14, 2007 (9:39 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 29, 2007 8:25 am)
The STS may not need as much horsepower as the DTS. Isn't it lighter and sleeker?

#3424 of 6186 Re: Cheap Steering Wheels... [fintail] by mediapusher

Jul 14, 2007 (9:49 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2007 10:51 am)
CAn you be more specific in terms of what you mean by cheap steering wheels? Cheap materials? Cheap feel? Steering wheels that aren't large enough?

#3425 of 6186 Re: So after 3300+ posts [sls002] by mediapusher

Jul 14, 2007 (9:57 pm)

Replying to: sls002 (Jun 28, 2007 9:25 am)
I just re-read what "Standard of the World" was based upon. I and many others on here had probably forgotten. If that's the criteria for becoming standard of the world is, then god I hope not. I hope they never become standard of the world again. That's what has led to their semi-demise. It may have worked at one time, but those days are over
 
Why would they have received an award for that? It seems silly.

#3426 of 6186 Re: I sincerely hope... [lemko] by gagrice

Jul 15, 2007 (7:37 am)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 29, 2007 7:03 am)
Cadillac Escalade truck - get rid of this stupid anachronism! It might've made sense back in the 1990s, but it's an embarrassment today. You don't see Toyota making a Lexus truck out of the Tundra!
 
Sorry to be a spoiler. The new 2009 Sequoia is just that. It is a big Tundra based SUV 5.7L engine and all. Bigger than the Escalade/Tahoe.. I suppose they will build the new Land Cruiser to compete against the Suburban or even bigger than the Excursion.
 
2009 Sequoia

#3427 of 6186 Re: So after 3300+ posts [mediapusher] by british_rover

Jul 15, 2007 (12:29 pm)

Replying to: mediapusher (Jul 14, 2007 9:57 pm)
SO what are you going to do reply to every post between now and June?
 
Multiple back to back replies on a topic have always been my definition of insanity for online forums.
 
EDIT second reply...
 
Cadillac Escalade truck - get rid of this stupid anachronism! It might've made sense back in the 1990s, but it's an embarrassment today. You don't see Toyota making a Lexus truck out of the Tundra!
  
Sorry to be a spoiler. The new 2009 Sequoia is just that. It is a big Tundra based SUV 5.7L engine and all. Bigger than the Escalade/Tahoe.. I suppose they will build the new Land Cruiser to compete against the Suburban or even bigger than the Excursion.
  
2009 Sequoia

 
He meant the Escalade EXT truck thing with the useless tiny bed in the back.
 

 
And I agree it is even stupider then the regular escalade.
 
The new LX570 looks like a over inflated RAV4.
 

 

 

#3428 of 6186 Re: So after 3300+ posts [british_rover] by gagrice

Jul 15, 2007 (4:30 pm)

Replying to: british_rover (Jul 15, 2007 12:29 pm)
My mistake. I agree the truck makes little sense. I see a quite a few of them. I should read closer before I post. lemko please accept my apology.......

#3429 of 6186 Re: So after 3300+ posts [gagrice] by british_rover

Jul 15, 2007 (5:05 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2007 4:30 pm)
What do you think about the LX570 equals over inflated RAV4?

#3430 of 6186 Re: So after 3300+ posts [british_rover] by gagrice

Jul 15, 2007 (6:25 pm)

Replying to: british_rover (Jul 15, 2007 5:05 pm)
I think most all the SUVs have gone down hill in appearance. I like heavy duty frames and steel bumpers. The LX570 will have to be a big improvement over the last model to compete with the Escalade for handling and performance. To me the Land Rover and G500 from Mercedes are the only true luxury SUVs available in the USA. I doubt the LC/LX would hold up under the abuse an SUV should be built to sustain.
 
I really do not like the looks of the RAV4. I think the CR-V is better looking. I think sales bear that out. I did go and sit in the Cadillac SRX. I liked the full length moon roof. I would not buy one as it is too small for my taste.

#3431 of 6186 Re: So after 3300+ posts [gagrice] by 62vetteefp

Jul 16, 2007 (4:54 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2007 4:30 pm)
I agree the truck makes little sense. I see a quite a few of them
 
Ahh, the truck makes little sense (avalanche/EXT), that is why we so many of them.
 
The truck is a great truck for a contractor that needs the bed for his work stuff (with covered storage) AND needs the 2nd row seat for family, or workers, and if he sometimes hauls long items.
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