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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [poncho167] by british_rover
Jul 01, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Jul 01, 2007 5:17 am)

Yeah so what is your point?
 
The Buick/Oldsmobile/Rover V8 became the Chevy small block of the United Kingdom.
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Re: The horsepower discussion ...Cadillac Escalade [imidazol97] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 30, 2007 6:05 am)

Anyone that's ever driven an underpowered vehicle knows how frustrating it is, hence the advertising of vehicles with power. They want you to know it can do the job well. Power is important when it comes to passing ,entering freeways and towing.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [gagrice] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 29, 2007 10:44 am)

Land Rovers suck. One of the most unreliable if not THE most unreliable vehicles on the road. Ask my sister, she has one, it's always in the shop.
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Re: Time to Retitle the Thread? [displacedtexan] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Jun 28, 2007 4:06 pm)

That's what we're talking about on here, because the "Standard of the World" question is stupid, and doesn't make any sense.
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Maybe there's no answer to the question posed at the start of this thread. Maybe the hosts should rename it something like what's on the Lincoln forum: Where is GM taking Cadillac? Most of the discussion around here isn't so much about answering the original question of standard of the world, but instead is general discussion about the direction and future of Cadillac.
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Re: Time to Retitle the Thread? [displacedtexan] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Jun 29, 2007 5:41 am)

Well based ont their performance, they don't want to be "Standard of the World". Whatever the hell that means
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Re: I sincerely hope... [lemko] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 29, 2007 6:03 am)

That's because instead of the same old trite nonsense that they had been doing before, the CTS was a fresh idea from the ground up, designed by automobile enthusiasts, tested and driven by American and European professionals with accolades.
 
The Catera, technically wasn't even a Cadillac persay. It was a cosmetically engineered car imported from Germany (Opel). It was a mediocre version of the car at best, which may have been fine in Germany, but was plagued with maintenance nightmares once Cadillac got their hands on it. On top of that the Catera's styling was far too bland. It ranked right "up there" with the Cimarron.
 
The Cimmarron, puhleeez, what an embarrassing example of cosmetic engineering that was. It should have never went into production. It was Cadillac's version of a Chevy Cavalier. The only one who was fooled by it was General Motors, certainly not the public or the automotive press.
 
You're wrong about the Cadillac Escalade. It still remains a top seller and status symbol for Cadillac. As long as people continue to buy it, they'll make it, environmentally friendly or not. And Toyota/Lexus does make an SUV out of one of their trucks. It's called a Toyota Land Cruiser or Lexus LX470.
 
The XLR may seem weird to some people, but this car isn't meant for tons of people to be able to afford it, and it's definitely an eye turner and perfect for someone that grows money on trees and wants something a little different than what's already out there, even if it does need refinement. I've heard it is not as exciting to drive as a Corvette and has some problems that one just shouldn't find on an $80,000 car. Face it, it's a rich man's toy.
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Cadillac CTS is a quantum leap over the abyssmal Cimmaron and mediocre Catera. The 2008 CTS looks even better. Hope to see it in the metal soon!
 
Cadillac Escalade truck - get rid of this stupid anachronism! It might've made sense back in the 1990s, but it's an embarrassment today. You don't see Toyota making a Lexus truck out of the Tundra!
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [lemko] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 29, 2007 7:25 am)

The STS may not need as much horsepower as the DTS. Isn't it lighter and sleeker?
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Re: Cheap Steering Wheels... [fintail] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2007 9:51 am)

CAn you be more specific in terms of what you mean by cheap steering wheels? Cheap materials? Cheap feel? Steering wheels that aren't large enough?
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Re: So after 3300+ posts [sls002] by mediapusher
Jul 14, 2007 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jun 28, 2007 8:25 am)

I just re-read what "Standard of the World" was based upon. I and many others on here had probably forgotten. If that's the criteria for becoming standard of the world is, then god I hope not. I hope they never become standard of the world again. That's what has led to their semi-demise. It may have worked at one time, but those days are over
 
Why would they have received an award for that? It seems silly.

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