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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [fintail] by british_rover
Jun 29, 2007 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2007 9:51 am)

Oh god that bothers me too. I can't remember if this is still true on the new Escalade but the old one used the exact same Steering Wheel as the Chevy Trucks.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [british_rover] by gagrice
Jun 29, 2007 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 29, 2007 9:59 am)

I like my GMC PU steering wheel. Put over 2000 miles sitting behind it last week and did not get fatiqued. Or tired of selecting music with all the buttons.
 
I guess I better check out the Range Rover. I just read all the horror stories and wrote them off. I drove the ML500 and the X5, both of which are very nice. I liked the roomy feel of the Escalade over the others.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [gagrice] by british_rover
Jun 29, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 29, 2007 10:30 am)

Not that there is anything wrong with the GMC/Chevy PU steering wheel but don't you expect something better in a vehicle that can reach to $70,000 MSRP?
 
You can't compare a Modern Range Rover to an old one. Completely different vehicle as of the 2003 MY. There is some debate about whether or not the switch to from the BMW V8 to the Jaguar V8 was a plus or minus. We have had some minor issues with the Jag V8 but front differential and electrical problems that came up on the 2003-2005 Range Rovers disappeared for 2006.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [british_rover] by gagrice
Jun 29, 2007 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 29, 2007 10:35 am)

That is good to know. I think we have only one dealer here in San Diego. I like the rugged look of the Land Rovers. None of the foo foo SUVs like the RX appeal to me in the least.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [british_rover] by fintail
Jun 29, 2007 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 29, 2007 9:59 am)

Yep I recall that, and in the 90s their truck wheel was a brutal piece of design. Also in previous Corvettes I always thought the wheel looked painfully cheap. What does a nice steering wheel cost, a few hundred bucks? It makes an impression worth the money.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [fintail] by british_rover
Jun 29, 2007 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2007 1:15 pm)

That is one thing that Mercedes does very well. Their steering wheels are always top notch. Just the right thickness, just enough cushioning around the rim and just the right texture on the wheel.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [british_rover] by fintail
Jun 29, 2007 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 29, 2007 1:20 pm)

I'll agree with that...well, the fintail wheel is a huge plastic thing that wouldn't look out of place on an old bus...but otherwise, they are excellent. I love the feel of the leather on the E55 wheel, and the wheel itself is nice looking. MB wheels are also large, which I like.
 
I haven't seen the wheel on a newer Caddy passenger car, I hope it's not an old Malibu wheel - I wouldn't put it past them
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Cadillac Escalade by mediapusher
Jun 29, 2007 (6:36 pm)
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I thought the Cadillac Escalade was the king of SUV's? That and the GMC Yukon Denali (which are essentially the same vehicle, just different skins)
 
Someone on here probably just had a heart attack cause they'd never thought they'd hear this from me.
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Re: I sincerely hope... [british_rover] by poncho167
Jun 30, 2007 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 29, 2007 9:27 am)

"Oh come on you can't really believe that can you?
  
It is still at its heart a Chevy/GMC truck. All other Luxury SUVs in that class or price range, except for the Navigator, are not handicapped by a plebeian mass market platform.
  
The Navigator is the exception to all of this but it is even worse then the Escalade.
  
Everything else is some for of unibody platform some with subframes.
  
Everything else is a fully independent suspension, many with standard air springs and some with standard adaptive air suspension. Many luxury SUVs now have a adaptive combination hydraulic/pneumatic suspension."
 
Even though it doesn't have IFS, it is still the best there is no doubt. Large GM SUV's are still the standard to be measured with and im not afraid to tell you.
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Re: How Cadillac can upset... [british_rover] by poncho167
Jun 30, 2007 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jun 29, 2007 10:35 am)

"There is some debate about whether or not the switch to from the BMW V8 to the Jaguar V8 was a plus or minus."
 
Just to let you know, that Jaguar V8 is a Ford engine in disguise.

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