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#3277 of 6195 The Caddy That "Figs"
Jun 02, 2007 (10:42 pm)
That's what I'm talking about, how can they live with themselves realeasing such junk Cadillac Catera ?? How fast can you say, bland subpar exterior design for a Cadillac, and electrical system nightmare??. What's really sad is the rebadged Opel that they used for the Cadillac Catera is probably a decent car- but not when GM put their poison wrench on it. i know that was 5 years ago, but that's not that long ago by car manufacturing standards.
Check on the STS-Is-it-good-quality board and see what an owner has to say about a 2005 STS :\.. Standard of the world... puhleeease.
And Plekto, why in the world would GM even bother with providing rental fleets? All the financial mess they have with pensions, health care, etc..It's ridiculous.
Hmmm, we (U.S.A.) have merely become the test track for General Motors. A sad state of affairs, but true.
Jun 02, 2007 (10:52 pm)
Plekto does Acura make a hybrid version of the Acura TL. I love that car. It's my dream.. If I owned one, I'd pet it every night.
If I could buy one 12 years old in perfect condition I would, and I'd stick a new engine in it...Great cars
PIcture an Acura TL gussied up from the talented crew on MTV's Pimp My Ride...delicious
#3279 of 6195 Re: The Caddy That "Figs" [mediapusher]
Jun 03, 2007 (6:19 am)
why in the world would GM even bother with providing rental fleets? All the financial mess they have with pensions, health care, etc..It's ridiculous.
You answered your own question. They have to keep people working or pay them to sit in a rubber room. At least if they break even selling to fleets they have them working and it is not a total loss on labor costs.
I wanted to rent an Escalade this last trip to Hawaii. They were all booked up months in advance. They have a bunch of them on the Big Island. I ended up with the little TrailBlazer. It was a bit cramped when we had 5 adults and one child. Some body has to provide vehicles for the rental fleets. I see more Chryslers than any other brand.
#3280 of 6195 Re: The Caddy That "Figs" [mediapusher]
Jun 03, 2007 (8:48 am)
1 - the Catera was a small part of Cadillac's total sales
2 - I think the the 1999 Catera is the one with the electrical problems. I think the years before and after 1999 were more reliable.
Jun 04, 2007 (7:51 am)
In May - not very impressive:
GM = up overall.
Caddy = down 14.7% vs last May.
Caddy = down 18.2% vs last Cal YTD.
Not very encouraging...
Seeing EVERY caddy model down...
#3282 of 6195 Re: Caddy Sales [rayainsw]
Jun 04, 2007 (7:55 am)
I thought the Escalade was up this year over last.
#3283 of 6195 Correction Re: Caddy Sales [gagrice]
Jun 04, 2007 (8:03 am)
"I thought the Escalade was up this year over last. "
Correct - I left 1 word out:
Caddy CAR models...
I suppose Caddy may see Trucks and SUVs as their salvation.
#3285 of 6195 Re: Correction Re: Caddy Sales [rayainsw]
Jun 04, 2007 (9:11 am)
Agreed. You can't build a lasting luxury franchise around trucks. You've got to have fast, sexy, drool-worthy cars. Look at BMW & MB. They don't need to sell trucks to pay the rent.
Anyway, if my NYC suburb is an accurate reflection of the changing tastes of the affluent, the Range Rover is now the favorite expensive SUV. I'm seeing fewer Escalades than I was a couple of years ago. Successful plumbing contractors still drive 'em, but the Wall St. investment banker types have fallen in love with the RR.
#3286 of 6195 Re: Correction Re: Caddy Sales [jimbres]
Jun 04, 2007 (9:14 am)
It's the same around here. The RR is the darling of highly paid execs and Stepford wives alike. The Escalade still makes a statement, but it seems less are wanting to make that statement (not that I personally see a RR as being much different).
I notice lots of kids are drooling over RRs too, and some of the younger trust funders around here actually get one (or the keys to their moms)
Caddy needs to keep up the progress with its cars. Don't stop now, as the competition jumps ahead all the time.