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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Date and models of GM cars I've owned... [imidazol97] by nwng
Apr 17, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 17, 2007 6:53 am)

caddy better be superb in every way when compare to a sub $20k accord
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Re: Cadillac CTS comments [mediapusher] by gagrice
Apr 17, 2007 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 17, 2007 2:53 am)

Apparently you're fine with GM using the U.S.A. public as "guinea pigs"
 
And Toyota didn't do the same with the hybrids that stalled while cruising down the Interstate? C'mon you have probably never owned a GM vehicle and most likely not a Cadillac. How does driving a Corolla 160k miles make you an expert on GM failures?
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Re: GM cars have class??? LOL!!!!!.. [mediapusher] by gagrice
Apr 17, 2007 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 17, 2007 3:59 am)

Your "I remember" intro speaks volumes. What happened 55 years ago has nothing to do with want people want today when it comes to cars.
 
Retro seems to be doing well. Take the PT Cruiser and HHR.
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Re: Date and models of GM cars I've owned... [mediapusher] by poncho167
Apr 17, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 17, 2007 4:18 am)

"Disgusting......GM cars are what you buy when you are down. I hope I'm never that down again."
 
That is pretty sad if thats really the way you think.
 
If I were to buy a Toyota and had the so called problems that you had (Yes, read the Toyota forums for the complaints), I surely wouldn't be going to their forum crying foul and taking personal issue with the company. Based on your commentary I bet if this happened to your Toyota you would probably buy one again without jumping ship.
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Re: 2933 + 2934 [rayainsw] by steve_ HOST
Apr 17, 2007 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Apr 17, 2007 6:49 am)

There's some server hiccup being looked at that's causing some posts to get repeated. We're leaving the dupes for the IT folks to troubleshoot.
 
Mediapusher, one reason the Escalade means Caddy to me more than the CTS is because I have trouble with the numeric names. I'd have to go find a photo to remind myself what the CTS looks like - the 'slade is lodged in my memory.
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Re: Date and models of GM cars I've owned... [imidazol97] by rockylee
Apr 17, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 17, 2007 5:27 am)

So the truth finally leaks out. Did you slip up ?
 
mediapusher, you always sounded like you owned more than one GM, car. The Grand-Am was a economy car back in 94'. Unfortunately, the Pontiac Grand-Am was a bad car.
 
I can't think of a bad Cadillac, made since 94'
 
Rocky
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Re: Date and models of GM cars I've owned... [imidazol97] by grbeck
Apr 17, 2007 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 17, 2007 6:53 am)

Actually, I find my father's Buick Park Avenue seats to be nice, too. I really like the heated seats feature.
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Re: Date and models of GM cars I've owned... [rayainsw] by lemko
Apr 17, 2007 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Apr 17, 2007 6:19 am)

Geeze! I didn't know I had it so bad! I have no credit card debt, no car debt, and no other debt besides a very modest mortgage payment. I have a well-paying job and even a decent part-time gig. If how I live is being down, being up must be absolutely mind-blowing! I guess I was down every time I bought a new Cadillac - January 1989, November 1993, and January 2002. Hard times indeed!
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Re: Date and models of GM cars I've owned... [lemko] by gagrice
Apr 17, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 17, 2007 11:12 am)

I am with you. Being out of debt is the most refreshing feeling I know of. I will never pay another nickel in interest for a vehicle. Money down the toilet. Maybe a small home mortgage as long as the interest is deductible.
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Catera by laurasdada
Apr 17, 2007 (11:59 am)
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Much to my surprise and horror, my father leased a new Caddy Catera (If I remember, a giveaway lease and he knew it was not so much a Caddy as a Europen Opel. He always dug Euro cars...).
 
And he truly enjoyed driving it. He found it smooth, comfortable, liked the interior and thought it to be of adequate power. A great car to cruise in from FL to CT. This, of course, was when he was able to drive it. No more Caddy for him as the Catera spent A LOT of time in the shop. Unfortunately for Caddy/GM, the reliability of the Catera reinforced the perception of (poor) GM quality for him. Rather than the revelation of driving a GM product that he enjoyed caused him to rethink his position.
 
I had one GM (Olds) car, in the early '90s, a company car. It struck me as basically the same car they had been building since the late '70s. At 11,000 miles the gas tank developed a severe leak. The tank had split at the top! Thanks, GM. Replaced with a Mercury Sable in '92. Nothing too bad to say other than a bit loud and underpowered. But much more to my liking than the Olds. And then a '95 Dodge Intrepid. Great style in and out. Poor build quality and much wind/road noise. But reliable. Lost job, kept car and had a good enough overall experience to:
 
Yet, my mind has widened since I went crazy and bought a '99 Chrysler 300M. Loved it, no major issues. Restored my faith in domestics. Will check out the '08 CTS for consideration to replace my very cool '05 TL some day. If the evil wife lets me, that is...

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