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Replying to: aldw (Apr 14, 2007 9:32 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 12, 2007 4:57 am) I believe Datsun beat Toyota into the US market around 1959. The Datsun patrol was a better built vehicle than the Toyota Land Cruiser. I only had enough cash to buy the LC so I left the Datsun Patrol the the wealthier off road guys. Both were cheaper than the Jeep CJ.  PS No Caddy off-road vehicles in 1964. Though my father in law took his Caddy 4 door sedan way out into the desert camping. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 14, 2007 9:53 am) |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 14, 2007 12:27 am) Bill P.
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 14, 2007 12:27 am) What are you talking about. Obviously this is something you don't know. The Aveo (Korean-Daewoo) is the only so-called outsourced car for a small car. It was designed in Italy, now how does that through you off. If you want to talk about outsourcing you have to put Toyota in front of that comment. The GTO and Prizm are not even made anymore. The Prizm was a compact car from Toyota just like the Chevy Nova was before it, and the GTO is a mid-sized car from Holden of Australia. The previously imported GTO wasn't a joke in anyway according to the magazine writers, and with its price was the best bang for the buck with more performance than its closest rival Ford Mustang. I am surprised mediapusher that you didn't like that car. It had the usual Japanese car look so I would think you would have liked it. I personally didn't like it because I owned an original 1960's GTO that I sold a couple years ago so yes, I didn't care for Pontiac putting a GTO name on a car with no heritage resemblance. |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 14, 2007 12:42 am) Obviously you don't pay attention to current auto news, business reports. The latest at Toyota labor is not good in the U.S. because of Toyota's practice of hiring part-time employees to avoid labor costs/benefits. Employees are starting to complain and people are listening. Toyota is now under the watchful eye of the UAW and there has already been organized meetings that have taken place. There was an article on the autoblog a couple weeks ago on how Toyota is really worried about the unions becoming a problem for them. That is one of the reasons they build in non-union states but it looks like their running from the unions has finally caught up to them. Don't be surprised if something comes out of this in the next 6-months. Toyota has peaked and now the downfall looks just over the horizon. |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 14, 2007 12:47 am) Sorry to correct you again but the above cars are not icons, some are just excellent sellers. An icon (classic car) is something that stands out, something that is special and is produced at low levels not mass produced. The 1969 Toyota 2000 GT is such a car and possibly the Toyota Stout pickup truck from the 1960's as well.
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 14, 2007 1:09 am) It wasn't a bad car either. We had the original one (1976) in our family after inheriting it from our grandmother who passed away in California. The 1976 model was supposed to be problematic for whatever that means. Other than replacing the 1 barrel carburator once or twice, it was a great econobox that returned about 30 mpg highway. I would have hate to gotten in an accident with a car this size but it always started. What I hated about it was the lack of manual transmission, AM radio, and no air-condioning. My sister and her husband took it to Ohio as a second car after they got married and had it for a few years before my sister got it broadsided, and it was losing motor power after 18-years so they retired it. A friends mom also had one in the 1980's. As far as looks it wasn't any less unattractive than the other cars out at this time. |
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Replying to: poncho167 (Apr 15, 2007 4:49 am) 
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 14, 2007 6:36 am) Or it may say built in Ontario, Canada where a good amount of the Camry's and I believe the Corolla also come from.
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