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#2859 of 6098 Re: False Claims about Toyota.. [Mr_Shiftright] by poncho167 Apr 13, 2007 (12:53 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2007 7:25 am) Harley has been using those items you mentioned since the 1980's.   Cadillac has a pretty fine product right now so quite trying to discount it with your bias.
#2860 of 6098 Re: Well.......... [rockylee] by bumpy Apr 13, 2007 (1:12 pm)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 13, 2007 12:23 pm) Don't blame the gubbmint. Blame GM North America's lack of strategic product planning. Even the 2+ ton RWD Impala could get good mileage with a muti-valve, direct-injection pushrod coupled to the dual-mode hybrid 6-speed auto. A weight reduction and reskinning for a sub .30 cd would also help. Lutz is not the guy to get this done, though.   Government to GM: Improve your mpg!   Lutz:   Buying Public to GM: pay the price for your lack of vision! Replies to this message: british_rover (Apr 13, 2007 1:13 pm)
#2861 of 6098 Re: Well.......... [bumpy] by british_rover Apr 13, 2007 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: bumpy (Apr 13, 2007 1:12 pm) Hehe Star Wars reference rocks.
#2862 of 6098 Re: Huh? [punkr77] by poncho167 Apr 13, 2007 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: punkr77 (Apr 12, 2007 7:58 pm) What's sub-par about the Aveo? It does well in the right ups and gets as good or better mileage that some other sub-compacts. Nice room, ride, handling, and descent mileage.
#2863 of 6098 Re: Huh? [Mr_Shiftright] by poncho167 Apr 13, 2007 (1:25 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2007 8:40 pm) Yes it was an EcoTech but I am not sure why it would be rough. I have driven a few of these and the engine was smooth, vibration free, quiet. There is both 2.2 & 2.4 engines.
#2864 of 6098 Re: Huh? [cooterbfd] by poncho167 Apr 13, 2007 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 13, 2007 7:27 am) Unlike the Cavaliar I am sure they make money on the Cobalt, G5, and HHR though a small amount compared to the non-unionized Japanese plants. It costs GM almost $3,500 a car in employee wages, health insurance so profitability is not much on a small low priced car. Replies to this message: mediapusher (Apr 14, 2007 12:21 am) cooterbfd (Apr 14, 2007 6:36 am) poncho167 (Apr 15, 2007 5:14 am) and 2 more... bumpy (Apr 14, 2007 4:20 am)
#2865 of 6098 Re: False Claims about Toyota.. [imidazol97] by mediapusher Apr 14, 2007 (12:18 am)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 11, 2007 4:04 pm) But how much was the initial cost of your car? Mine cost $7000.00 ___________________________________ reference text:::::  by imidazol97 Apr 11, 2007 (5:04 pm) Replying to: aldw (Apr 11, 2007 3:59 pm)   I've not had to replace or repair a transmission on my LeSabres, 150K, 150K, 50K. So replacing a transmission on a Corolla at 160K certainly doesn't look good to me.
#2866 of 6098 Re: Union Labor [poncho167] by mediapusher Apr 14, 2007 (12:21 am)
Replying to: poncho167 (Apr 13, 2007 1:35 pm) Then maybe they need to stop hiring union workers and change the structure of their work force.   Our economy can no longer sustain union labor. Unions are what got GM into this mess in the first place. That's why they produce cars that scream cheap, no matter what the price point   If Unions hadn't gotten greedy it would be different. ___________________ reference text: by poncho167 Apr 13, 2007 (2:35 pm) Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 13, 2007 8:27 am)   Unlike the Cavaliar I am sure they make money on the Cobalt, G5, and HHR though a small amount compared to the non-unionized Japanese plants. It costs GM almost $3,500 a car in employee wages, health insurance so profitability is not much on a small low priced car. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Apr 14, 2007 6:36 am) poncho167 (Apr 15, 2007 5:14 am) bumpy (Apr 15, 2007 5:29 am) and 1 more...
#2867 of 6098 Re: Huh? [poncho167] by mediapusher Apr 14, 2007 (12:27 am)
Replying to: poncho167 (Apr 12, 2007 1:21 pm) Pletko, as far as I know, GM outsources the manufacturing of most of the small cars you see with their nameplate on them.   For example: The Chevrolet Aveo is made in South Korea. The Geo Prizm/Chevrolet Prizm were just cosmetically engineered Toyota Corollas. They rolled off the same factory line in Fremont, California. They succeeded in messin' up one of Australia's Holden cars, otherwise known as the "new" Pontiac GTO (What a joke), let's hope they don't do the same with the new Holden car (Pontiac G8) I don't know where the Cobalt is made, but I doubt if they make that either.I think the Cobalt is a Korean car too. I think they make the Cavalier, I don't know. Replies to this message: bumpy (Apr 14, 2007 4:22 am) uplanderguy (Apr 15, 2007 3:32 am) mediapusher (Apr 16, 2007 8:01 am) uplanderguy (Apr 18, 2007 1:40 am) poncho167 (Apr 15, 2007 4:30 am)
#2868 of 6098 Re: GM can't make profit on small cars.. [plekto] by mediapusher Apr 14, 2007 (12:30 am)
Replying to: plekto (Apr 12, 2007 1:24 pm) I agree. They fail at it because it costs them more to make a small car than what the car is worth at retail when you factor in their ridiculous overhead and liability. They should stick to making what they know best, and that is "land barges" like the DTS and SUVs ____________________________ reference text:::::: My point was more that every time Gm tries to make a small car, they tend to fail at it. They just don't understand it on a fundamental level or something.

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