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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2007 1:34 pm) I wouldn't call the Cobalt hopeless. Granted, it's not where the Corolla or Civic are, yet it's not a Vega by any means. The Ecotec engine is a highly regarded engine. In it's day, the Chevette was a decent little car (even better when someone stuffed a 350 in it  ). I think anything smaller than these can't be marketed for JUST the US, as the market for those subcompacts isn't that big here.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 12, 2007 3:11 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 12, 2007 1:24 pm) I hear you there. Cavalier, Aveo, Metro: all pretty sub-par. The only small car Chevy ever had that was done right was the Prizm which was (gasp) really a Toyota. That said, they've come a very long way with the cobalt. I'd actually consider it if I needed a basic econobox. So... just ignore that market and let Toyota or whomever build the econoboxes(which basically make no real profit anyways compared to SUVs and luxury cars). If gas keeps going up, that huge markup on SUV's will no longer cut it. They'll have to put up incentives out the ying-yang to sell to anyone who doesn't HAVE to have one (construction/delivery/people who have to tow). As for hitting the Luxury cars, I don't think GM has it's game up to that level yet. |
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Replying to: punkr77 (Apr 12, 2007 7:58 pm) But you know, GM's small car do seem to get a little better every time. Still can't get the arrow in the bullseye, but at least they are hitting the tree trunk and the ground near the target area. Gee, the more I think about GM products, the better Cadillac and Corvette look. Talk about two jewels in an otherwise rhinestone crown. 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2007 8:40 pm) It's not as good as the new Civic (especially the Si), but it's about 90% or more. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2007 3:49 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 13, 2007 7:27 am) It is probably very, very tiny though and when they have to add extra incentives to those models that tiny profit is wiped out. |
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Congress, along with GW, are going to put the final nail into GM's coffin with these CAFE standards. If you ever wanted to own a Cadillac, you better get a copy in the near future as I now believe Cadillac, let alone GM, will not be around in the not to distant future as Lutz, is waving the white flag by canceling the RWD Zeta's we were going to see and make GM, profitable once again. The CAFE standards will hurt GM, the most as they were going to be the biggest makers of powerful RWD automobiles. The CAFE, cancels the RWD Zeta DTS for Cadillac, and its sister the 2011 Buick RWD Lucerne. God only knows how many cool RWD cars will be lost. Thanks alot government !!!!  Rocky
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 11, 2007 5:22 pm) |
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