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Well said. All cars have some faults and flaws. |
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 11, 2007 5:22 pm) The 2000 GT is collectible. Never really in a league with the competition. If they were really that great they would have sold more than they did in the States. The only reason they bring big money today is the fact that less than 100 ever came to the USA. Give me a 911 any day. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 11, 2007 8:00 pm) Edmunds.com's Most Significant Vehicles, 1966-2006 Don't see a Caddy on the list but other GM rides are represented. I'm partial to the 1984 winner myself.
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 11, 2007 8:31 pm) Big difference, Steve, as gagrice was talking ICONS. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 11, 2007 4:17 pm) Wasn't there a Studebaker called the Land Cruiser? As for icons, the Datsun 240Z is about the only one I can readily think of from a Japanese make. Maybe the early Honda S2000. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 11, 2007 8:00 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 12, 2007 4:18 am) The only iconic Caddy in my mind is pink and belonged to Gladys Presley. The '55 Fleetwood.
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 11, 2007 4:17 pm) One thing Cadillac could copy from Harley is to use more foreign parts and technology to boost reliability and credibility even further. Harley V-rods now use Japanese carbs and shocks, Italian ignition, Porsche-designed engine and (gasp) French influenced fuel injection. And it performs well as an "American icon", too. Pretty slick hat trick if you ask me. No reason Cadillac couldn't improve its products with more global cooperation while still retaining a completely American character. Harley stands as a perfect example. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 12, 2007 7:18 am) Sure it does! Absolutely!! I know this predates the article you referenced, but from 1955 until 1966 Caddilac produced a limited edition convertible known as the Fleetwood Eldorado Biarritz. Also, Don't forget that the first postwar designs by Bill Mitchell in 1948(1946-47 were gussied up '41's) Started the tailfin craze. Try and touch a '59 Fleetwood Eldo Biarritz for under $100K? BTW Bill Mitchell also designed the '63 Riviera, The car that saved Buick. Now, you'll probably tell me "too far back-what have they done for me lately"? True, but remember this; back in the '50's, GM began marketing the DeVille lineup that was the backbone of their sales for 45 yrs as a car that us blue collar workers aspired to own when we retire. This worked until the late '80's when "lesser cars" from ALL makes started including luxury items (ps, pw, pdl, ac, cruise,etc.) that were historically found on luxury models. That put pressure on Caddy to come up w/ a "plan B". I believe that to be the Seville. Since it's inception, until it was renamed the STS a few years back, I don't believe it has been very competitive, especially since the market for such cars has been heated up by the Japanese. Todays DTS think of it as the stainless steel version of your refrigerator, and not a top of the line Viking. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 12, 2007 7:18 am)
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