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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: aldw (Apr 11, 2007 2:59 pm) And perhaps you need to stop buying cars with all the gadgets, gizmos, and hoo-hah's on them. And another word of advice, stay away from automatic transmissions. ________________________________ reference text::::: by aldw Apr 11, 2007 (3:59 pm) Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 11, 2007 3:37 pm) I've got a Toyota Camry 16 years old, less than 110,000 with enough bills to pay for 3 transmissions and have seen GM vehicles with 3 times the miles and same vintage need only a belt replacement.
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 11, 2007 3:30 pm) I think you meant to say Lansing, Grand River Plant as Grand Rapids, is my hometown in Michigan.  Rocky |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 11, 2007 3:36 pm)  Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 11, 2007 3:40 pm) Because the chances of getting a reliable car from GM is like the chances of getting a wild card in Las Vegas, Nevada. Asian nameplates such as Honda  or Toyota simply don't have this FLAKY reputation. I call GM  cars junk based on my experience with them (e.g. buttons on instrument panel are made of not only cheap plastic but hollow plastic, so that holes get punched in them over time from regular use :\ :\) No one has addressed why GM won't improve the quality of their vehicles. They still use cheap plastic in the CTS. (I haven't seen the 2008) The CTS should have never had cheap plastic in it. And their technology is behind the times. Have you seen the interior of a their Chevy Cavalier? ewwww. And take a look at the review I wrote regarding a Chevrolet Impala I rented 2 weekends ago. Ridiculous and gross. I don't label Toyota's cars as junk, cause my experience has been very good with them. _____________________________ by rockylee Apr 11, 2007 (4:40 pm) Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 11, 2007 4:36 pm) LOL, well why should one have to pick a different model because they can't get it right ? You wouldn't give that fair assessment torwards GM, vehicles if their were known failures with a particular part. You would generalize and lump that particular model as GM junk. Rocky
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Replying to: aldw (Apr 11, 2007 2:59 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 11, 2007 3:51 pm) They don't make a Cavalier anymore. >And take a look at the review I wrote regarding a Chevrolet Impala I rented 2 weekends ago. Read the reviews I wrote of the two Accords in the showroom at a local Honda dealer. Rough and plain, no soft touch plastics other than back of armrest, seats hard like lawn chairs, side bolsters too narrow--and I didn't even experience the rough ride this time (did that in 03 when shopping).
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 11, 2007 3:30 pm) Canada is America, as is Mexico. Some of the folks get offended when you go there and say you are American. My trucks and Suburban were all built in North America. They were and are all equally well built. If you had read my other post it was not referring to all Toyotas. Only those that have been reported here on Edmund's with problems that the dealers seem unable to resolve. Also the problems seem to be getting more frequent with the last 5 model years, from Toyota. Maybe they are resting on their laurels or growing too fast. Hopefully Cadillac and GM are learning from their mistakes and will continue their current turnaround.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 11, 2007 2:42 pm)
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I second that sentiment. Toyota's very first truck was... A copy of the Jeep for the Japanese military. Right after WWII. Ever since then, they've been the #2 off-road choice behind Jeep. If you go off-roading, you see - Jeeps, Toyotas, some GM and Ford, and... pretty much nothing else. The old engines aside, they are worth every penny. My old 4-Runner that I use as my commuter-box has 340K miles and 20 years on it. And it would probably manage to eek its way up at least half of the Rubicon Trial despite its age.(pretty much stock except for a reinforced racing clutch) If I were to buy a new 4x4, the Tacoma or 4-Runner would be at the top of the list right behind a Wrangler Unlimited. P.S. The very first modern SUV ever made... Toyota. They started the whole craze. (sure the Surburban existed, but it was a tank - way too big to appeal to most people) Lastly - let's see... a few Toyota icons: Supra. Celica. 4-Runner Land Cruiser 2000 GT(I'd LOVE to own one) Prius(love it or hate it, it's an icon) I'm sure I missed a few. |
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