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#2725 of 6098 Re: Well.. [gagrice] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Apr 09, 2007 (2:08 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 1:43 pm) I'm just saying that Toyota is tremendously successful and who can argue with that?   Encouraging a company to excellence isn't "bashing", or if it is, then god bless America.
#2726 of 6098 Re: Caddy yes, Lexus NO!!.. [gagrice] by lokki Apr 09, 2007 (2:22 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 1:28 pm) Well, since you insist on comparing Cadillac Warranties to Cadillac warranties   Business Week March 7 2007 Cadillac Warranties   And regarding your statement on your personal experience on Lexus warranty:   The engine and transmission are rock solid. It was struts, brakes, leaky valve covers, gas gauge module, airbag sensor, water pump, rear view mirror etc etcYes $1200 to replace a defective rear view mirror. $1200 to replace a gas gauge sending module. I think I will scan them all in and post on my Carspace. For those that think that Lexus is perfection. Just turned 88k miles. I believe she had under 10k miles when the 3 year warranty ran out.   Are you sure you bought it from LEXUS? Because the warranty information doesn't seem to match up with your story somehow....   LEXUS SPECIFIC   Bumper to Bumper Warranty The coverage lasts for 48 months or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. Wheel alignment and balancing, however, are covered for 12 months or 20,000 miles, whichever comes first.   This warranty covers repairs and adjustments needed to correct defects in materials or workmanship of any part supplied by Lexus   Powertrain Warranty The Lexus Powertrain Warranty lasts 72 months or 70,000 miles, whichever comes first. Except for the situations listed on the Basic Warranty page, this warranty covers repairs needed to fix defects in materials or workmanship of any component listed below:   Engine Cylinder block and head and all internal parts, timing belt and cover, flywheel, oil pan, water pump, fuel pump, engine mounts, engine control computer, seals and gaskets.   Transmission and Transaxle Case and all internal parts, torque converter, clutch cover, mounts, engine control computer, seals and gaskets.   Front-Wheel-Drive System Driveshafts, axle, hub, bearings, seals and gaskets.   Rear-Wheel-Drive System Differential carrier assembly, driveshaft, axle carrier, axle case, axle bearing, axle shaft, seals and gaskets. Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 4:26 pm) tlong (Apr 09, 2007 10:33 pm) gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 6:47 pm)
#2727 of 6098 Re: Well.. [gagrice] by autoboy16 Apr 09, 2007 (3:29 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 1:43 pm) That may soon change with the new LX570 on the way.   Um I think that the QX56 or Armada should be the Standard of Excellence in Luxurious SUVs.   I like the Escalade and all but 60k to leave to 65lb seats at home is ridiculous. Why not just buy the QX-56 or Navigator which both have Power folding 3rd row seats and similar Blingage (Navigator) or features (QX56 has standard Nav w/ backup camera).   Please don't say the whole American thing because the Lincoln is a ford product and the QX56 is built in Canton, Mississippi and you cant get more southern than that(unless moving to Florida...) and no offense.   -Cj Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 4:50 pm) poncho167 (Apr 10, 2007 5:59 am) gagrice (Apr 10, 2007 6:13 am)
#2728 of 6098 Re: Caddy yes, Lexus NO!!.. [lokki] by gagrice Apr 09, 2007 (4:26 pm)
Replying to: lokki (Apr 09, 2007 2:22 pm) You are right it was 4 yrs 50k miles. That must have made her feel real good with the first big expense at 46837 miles. The AC went out. Cost to repair with rebuilt parts $2327.67. Not everyone buys a car to drive a lot of miles. It would be nice if they had some longevity to go along with the mileage. I will post the dealer invoice later. For the skeptics on the forum. I have a folder an inch thick here from when it was delivered 10/02/89. Lots of warranty work on the suspension. My wife told me she almost gave it back the first year because it handled so poorly. Replies to this message: tlong (Apr 09, 2007 10:33 pm)
#2729 of 6098 Re: Well.. [autoboy16] by gagrice Apr 09, 2007 (4:50 pm)
Replying to: autoboy16 (Apr 09, 2007 3:29 pm) I have not checked out the QX56 yet. Not thrilled with the pictures. I would pull the third row as I did with my Suburban and store it until I sold the vehicle. The Armada is ugly to both my wife and myself. I never gave the Navigator much thought. Our first choice is still the MB GL320 CDI. And my wife likes it. The only problem is it is made in America. We wanted to do the European delivery. Replies to this message: poncho167 (Apr 10, 2007 5:59 am) gagrice (Apr 10, 2007 6:13 am)
#2730 of 6098 Re: Caddy yes, Lexus NO!!.. [lokki] by gagrice Apr 09, 2007 (6:47 pm)
Replying to: lokki (Apr 09, 2007 2:22 pm) Ok, I must take back some of my rant. I have now gone back in this pile of invoices from Bob Baker Lexus. This file is no less than an inch thick with dates & times the LS400 was at the dealer. You may consider it OK that it went 10 years and 47k miles with out a major repair. There were many $300 to $400 service charges over that 10 years. All the struts and shocks were replaced under warranty. Plus several pieces I could not ID on the invoices. When I came on to the scene my wife had a list from Bob Baker Lexus of items they claimed needed replacement. It was over $5000 on a 12 year old car. Nothing major, airbag sensor, fuel gauge module, rearview mirror, a front strut. I went on the search for an independent and found TLC in San Diego. They did all that was needed for $1100. You may think it is OK that the dealer was willing to take advantage of a widow like that. I DON'T! So Excuse me if I am not a fan of Lexus and their dealer network. It gets better. The brakes were not working smoothly. We took it into TLC and had all pads, bushings and rotors turned for $470. Guess what Bob Baker did the last brake job with after market parts. Not genuine Lexus pads and bushings. PS My wife thought they were honest and that was the price to keep her car in good shape.   If Cadillac dealers treat their customers like our Lexus dealer they deserve to go broke.
#2731 of 6098 Interesting Article by Mr_Shiftright HOST Apr 09, 2007 (7:10 pm)
This is an interesting article about Cadillac. It's a bit dated, but that's good because then we get to see in hindsight which predictions did and didn't happen. But the "vision" for the company, some of the historical recollections, and the discussions about challenges for Cadillac are as good today as they were in 1999 when the article was written.   http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3165/is_1999_Sept/ai_57165169/pg_1 Replies to this message: lokki (Apr 10, 2007 4:45 am) louiswei (Apr 10, 2007 4:51 am) lokki (Apr 10, 2007 5:12 am) and 22 more...
#2732 of 6098 Re: ... [plekto] by tlong Apr 09, 2007 (10:27 pm)
Replying to: plekto (Apr 09, 2007 12:32 pm) And how much worse would their image be if they came out with a half Saab/half Cadillac joke like the BLS?   I actually kink of like the looks of the BLS. It's not the size that's the issue, it is the quality of the car. My Audi A4 was a great car. If Caddy could make a car that had the same interior quality and handling as the Audi it would do wonders for their image.   But you're probably right, I suspect that the current BLS is not up to that level. Too bad.
#2733 of 6098 Re: Caddy yes, Lexus NO!!.. [gagrice] by tlong Apr 09, 2007 (10:33 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 4:26 pm) My wife told me she almost gave it back the first year because it handled so poorly.   Why in the world would anybody buy a Toyota or Lexus for good handling?
#2734 of 6098 Re: Caddy yes, Lexus NO!!.. [gagrice] by lemko Apr 10, 2007 (3:43 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 09, 2007 1:28 pm) Holy smoke! $1,200 for a rearview mirror? Which rearview mirror - the one on the door or the inside one? Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 10, 2007 4:32 am) lemko (Apr 10, 2007 8:33 am) Mr_Shiftright (Apr 10, 2007 9:03 am) and 3 more...

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