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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: andres3 (Apr 09, 2007 9:01 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 10:57 am) I'd agree to a certain point. If a company has historically for a long period of time stood behind it's product then it means it must be good. Since GM has only recently offered a "decent" warranty (the bumper to bumper coverage still sucks, for lack of a better word) then its really just a marketing gimmick. Wait 10 years from now and see if the warranty remains the same. |
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Too often is only of Cadillac and GM's past. Let's have people post about Hondas and Toyotas from their first years here. I can start with the 70s, early 80s model a buddy had in Charleston with CVCC that required premium, quit running if you hit water on the road in rain, showed rusting real fast, jumped to the next lane when you accelerated quickly in a lower gear due to torque steer. Sometimes our views are tunneled without the broad view that lots of these cars had problems. Even today I can list a bunch of Camry discussions with _lots_ of problems, right here,now, on Edmunds, live. A couple-a-years-ago it was the Avalon. Even CR had to downgrade their rating with a small comment and a picture on the bottom of a page. Cars do change. Hopefully they improve. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 4:16 pm) The dealers probably make more profit from having this exist than they can afford (or at least) want to lose. They will not let Honda raise their warranties "for free" for this purpose. |
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Has been around a while 
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 09, 2007 9:15 am) Some of our most magnificent collectible/classic American cars were made by companies that soon after went out of business. RE: PROBLEMS PER 100 VEHICLES: do they define what a "problem" is exactly? Is my Lexus window regulator problem equal to your Cadillac transmission problem or somebody else's Mercury with the bad dome light? How does this work?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 09, 2007 9:39 am) My Honda had a power seat that acted up a bit, window moldings/trim that rippled, and a rattle in the center console pocket storage door. (of course all of these we're covered under warranty and didn't cost me a dime)! My Dodge had transmission failures, head gaskets leak, broken serpentine belts (for no reason and well maintained), bad corroding battery terminals and starter cables, wires), bad parking brake, bad Orings and seals, leaky gas tank, (all of which cost me big time $$$ money after warranty). Which problems are worse?
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Replying to: andres3 (Apr 09, 2007 10:02 am) |
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2. Build a BMW 3-Series competitor. This is your "entry-level" Cadillac for new buyers This would be like Bentley making a $100K entry-level car. There's no practical reason for Cadillac to try to compete here. First off, all it does is cheapen their image. Mercedes won't bring their A class to the U.S. for precisely this reason. They learned the hard way with Chrysler that you need to protect your niche and learn to live within your means. Secondly, if they want to move themselves UP into the luxury market, they need more top-end cars and less filler for the masses. The idea of every make being a full line is very 1970s/1980s thinking. Third, GM knows it can't make a better car than the M3 - it's a waste of money, R&D, and effort, because it would have to be twice as good at less cost to win BMW owners over. So they just don't bother. There will BE no small Cadillac in the U.S. If you want a small GM luxury car in the U.S., buy a Saab.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 09, 2007 9:39 am) I don't understand straw man reference. I posted the problems per 100 vehicles or whatever the rating system is. People can kvetch as much as they want over what a problem is rated by JD Powers. I suspect they are intelligent enough to consider a rattle different from a transmission failing at 1000 miles as in some recent vehicles. |
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