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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by poncho167
Apr 08, 2007 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 1:16 pm)

Only the Hyundai Sonata ranks at the top for initial quality. Hyundai as a whole is no where toward the top.
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Re: History gives us a clue [poncho167] by rockylee
Apr 08, 2007 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Apr 08, 2007 5:17 am)

10 YEAR / 100,000 MILES POWERTRAIN PROTECTION Covers most engine & transaxle components.
 
Covers repair or replacement of powertrain components (i.e. selected Engine and Transmission/Transaxle components), originally manufactured or installed by Hyundai that are defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance. Coverage applies to Original Owner only effective with 2004 Model Year and newer model year vehicles. On 1999-2003 Model Years, coverage applies to Original Owner and immediate family members (i.e. wife, husband, daughter, son, stepdaughter, stepson).
 
Second and/or subsequent owners have powertrain components coverage under the 5 year / 60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Excludes coverage for vehicles in commercial use (i.e. taxi, route delivery, delivery service, rental, etc.).

 
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/warranty/warranty.aspx
 
5 YEAR / 60,000 MILES NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY Covers nearly every new vehicle component
 
Covers repair or replacement of any component manufactured or originally installed by Hyundai that is defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.
 
Following components covered for time and mileage limits indicated:
- Radio And Sound Systems (i.e. radio, cassette tape drive mechanism, and compact disc player): 3 years / 36,000 miles
- Paint: 3 years/ 36,000 miles
- Battery: 3 years / unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years / unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
- Air Conditioner Refrigerant Charge: 1 year / unlimited miles
- Adjustments: 1 year / 12,000 miles
- Wear Items: 1 year / 12,000 miles (e.g. belts, brake pads & linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)

 
But this one says only the original owner has the powertrain warranty and once he sells the warranty ends. They customer service guy I spoke to told me the warranty could be transferred once.
 
The 5/60K warranty can be transferred to the next owner.
 
If that is true I'd rather have the GM, warranty as the next owner can get any of the remaining coverage left and their is no restriction on transfer.
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [poncho167] by rockylee
Apr 08, 2007 (5:26 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Apr 08, 2007 5:17 am)

Are you sure ? I though last year Hyundai, ranked right next to Porsche and Lexus
 
I know Cadillac and Buick was ranked up there also.
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by snakeweasel
Apr 08, 2007 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 08, 2007 5:26 am)

I will say this, my Elantra has been the most reliable car I have ever had.
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Re: History gives us a clue [snakeweasel] by rockylee
Apr 08, 2007 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 5:28 am)

So your Elantra, was the "Cadillac" of reliabilty.
 
How reliable is your CTS-V ? Any problems with it ?
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by snakeweasel
Apr 08, 2007 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 08, 2007 5:31 am)

So your Elantra, was the "Cadillac" of reliabilty.
 
Well nothing went wrong with it for the first 120+K miles (except regular maintence).
 
How reliable is your CTS-V ? Any problems with it ?
 
Well in reality its to early to say how reliable it is, the car rarely gets out. Its pretty much a date car for me and the wife. So it usually just gets out on the weekends, this week I haven't driven it but will take it out today going to the daughters house. So far we have a little over 11K miles on it, at this rate it will take about 20 years to get to 100K miles.
 
So so far no issues.
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Re: History gives us a clue [snakeweasel] by rockylee
Apr 08, 2007 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 5:39 am)

Well that is good to hear......
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright] by gagrice
Apr 08, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 9:09 pm)

I would like to invest in more companies with problems like Toyota
 
Investing in Toyota today would be like buying a house in CA at the current over inflated prices. A losing proposition. I would buy back some shares of GM that I sold a few years ago, before buying TM. You should have bought Toyota 2 or 3 years ago at half the price of today.
 
Here is the CNN Money take on Toyota stock.
 
Running out of gas?
 
Investors willing to get behind the wheel of Toyota's stock aren't likely to lose their shirt. But it may be like taking a drive in a Corolla, an efficient but relatively unexciting ride.

 
It is hard for me to understand with your background, how you can get excited about an appliance car like Toyota builds. I rented a Camry and a Malibu recently. I can not tell the difference. They were both just cheap cars to use on vacation. Neither was as nice as my 18 year old LS400. They will both be recycled at least 3 times in the next 18 years.
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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 08, 2007 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 08, 2007 6:19 am)

That's what I meant...I bought it years ago and I'm very pleased with Toyota's success. No, I wouldn't buy the stock now as Toyota is at the top of its game. But I wouldn't buy GM stock either. I have zero faith in GM management at this point.
 
I'm not "excited" at all about Toyota products, I'm just impressed with their success. They are rolling over everyone like a freight train it seems. I don't see anyone stopping them in the immediate future.
 
But as you say, the auto business is like the Wild West, you never know when you're going to run into a faster gun and end up in the dirt. Many of the mighty have fallen in the past.
 
Which is, of course, kind of the subject of this topic.
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Re: Lexus has no personality?????? [mediapusher] by sls002
Apr 08, 2007 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 1:31 pm)

my dishwasher runs silently. far quieter than the Seville at cruise.

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