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#2665 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice]
Apr 08, 2007 (1:00 am)
My wife does not like the angular lines on the Cadillacs. I guess it appeals to a younger crowd. I drove the 2007 Escalade which was very nice. Except the seats are so much harder than the 2006 and older models. The one I drove was near $70k and the 2006 with 21k miles was $40k. Too big of a hit for me to accept. That is what I am seeing with all the big luxury SUVs. Including the Lexus that is supposed to have great resale.
Yeah, that is a heck of a drop in one MY
#2666 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright]
Apr 08, 2007 (4:42 am)
That is the way it used to be believed that company's with quality problems went with the longer warranties, but that is not the case with GM. The longer warranty in GM's case is to help win back customers who feel that foreign cars have better reliabilty and to show better value for their money. GM doesn't have a engine quality or reliability issue and based on GM's warranty claims the last 10 years they felt that this would not effect their bottom line because there haven't been to many warranty claims in this area.
Isuzu, Suzuki, and Chrysler are others who extended their warranties without the Hyundai fine print making the warranty void if selling or trading in before the 10 year powertrain warranty expired.
I see the trend continuing with Toyota joining the field in the next couple of years. Could it be that Toyota's recent slide in reliability/recalls have given them reason to not implement right now?
#2667 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [poncho167]
Apr 08, 2007 (4:49 am)
You are allowed to transfer Hyundai's warranty to "1" owner and the transaction has to take place within' 30 days.
I talked to a Hyundai, customer service representative a few days ago asking about the Genesis, and asking about discounts I might be elgible for if I were to ever buy a Hyundai, product since my father's company Delphi Corporation builds Fuel Injection systems for Hyundai.
I was told that's the warranty rule on Hyundai/Kia brands.
#2668 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:04 am)
I am not sure I know what you are saying. A Hyundai owner after buying their car has 30 days to decide to sell to another buyer and the 10 years powertrain warranty stays in effect?
All I know is the Hyundai/Kia powertrain warranty is only good for the original owner or immediate family member only. That is what it says, and that is what Hyundai had counted on thinking that people don't keep vehicles that long.
#2669 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [poncho167]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:13 am)
No, What I'm saying is if you buy the car and drive let's say 30,000 miles on it over 3 years. You can sell it to whoever and then the next owner has 30 days to get the HPP transferred into his/her name and they have to pay a small fee for transfer cost. I think it's like $30-40 bucks.
The car's HPP is only allowed to be transferred once.
I will try to get you a link, so hold on....brb
Okay here it is......
#2670 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:17 am)
Only the Hyundai Sonata ranks at the top for initial quality. Hyundai as a whole is no where toward the top.
#2671 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [poncho167]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:21 am)
10 YEAR / 100,000 MILES POWERTRAIN PROTECTION Covers most engine & transaxle components.
Covers repair or replacement of powertrain components (i.e. selected Engine and Transmission/Transaxle components), originally manufactured or installed by Hyundai that are defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance. Coverage applies to Original Owner only effective with 2004 Model Year and newer model year vehicles. On 1999-2003 Model Years, coverage applies to Original Owner and immediate family members (i.e. wife, husband, daughter, son, stepdaughter, stepson).
Second and/or subsequent owners have powertrain components coverage under the 5 year / 60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Excludes coverage for vehicles in commercial use (i.e. taxi, route delivery, delivery service, rental, etc.).
5 YEAR / 60,000 MILES NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY Covers nearly every new vehicle component
Covers repair or replacement of any component manufactured or originally installed by Hyundai that is defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.
Following components covered for time and mileage limits indicated:
- Radio And Sound Systems (i.e. radio, cassette tape drive mechanism, and compact disc player): 3 years / 36,000 miles
- Paint: 3 years/ 36,000 miles
- Battery: 3 years / unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years / unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
- Air Conditioner Refrigerant Charge: 1 year / unlimited miles
- Adjustments: 1 year / 12,000 miles
- Wear Items: 1 year / 12,000 miles (e.g. belts, brake pads & linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses)
But this one says only the original owner has the powertrain warranty and once he sells the warranty ends. They customer service guy I spoke to told me the warranty could be transferred once.
The 5/60K warranty can be transferred to the next owner.
If that is true I'd rather have the GM, warranty as the next owner can get any of the remaining coverage left and their is no restriction on transfer.
#2672 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [poncho167]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:26 am)
Are you sure ? I though last year Hyundai, ranked right next to Porsche and Lexus
I know Cadillac and Buick was ranked up there also.
#2673 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:28 am)
I will say this, my Elantra has been the most reliable car I have ever had.
#2674 of 6195 Re: History gives us a clue [snakeweasel]
Apr 08, 2007 (5:31 am)
So your Elantra, was the "Cadillac" of reliabilty.
How reliable is your CTS-V ? Any problems with it ?