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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 12:43 pm) It's the cars that have all the gadgets, gizmos and hoo-hahs (luxury cars) that cost a lot of money to fix
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 07, 2007 8:26 am) I've already explained the problems I've had with GM cars. Scrollback and read the blog more thoroughly That's fine, keep wasting your money on GM cars. It's your money __________________________ reference text: My guess is that your bad GM cars were all over a decade ago and you're living in the past.
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 7:20 pm) If the argument is they couldn't make a standard of the world Cadillac because of the poison pet food wheat gluten fiasco points you mentioned, that's like the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe we should worry about cleaning up our own "house" before we start bad mouthing other countries |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 07, 2007 7:57 pm) You and I agree on that subject. Although it is not just the luxury cars anymore. You can get all the extra electronic gadgetry in a Civic or Corolla. One poster was complaining on her Toyota that she had bought to get high mileage when her display screen went bad right after the warranty was up. It was going to cost her $1000 to replace. She could not operate the radio, heat or AC without that display. All cars are getting too complex. We are in a throw away society. And cars are just that. Use till something breaks and chuck it. PS Except a Cadillac 
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 8:27 pm) As sad as it is, this is the philosophy that GM operated by for so long. As far as I'm concerned they still do operate by the philosopy of "build it so it breaks" mantra--so that the customer will be forced to come back. This is how GM makes their money. Now with the addition of their new 100,000 mile warranty things may be changing. The idea that others may be following their "lead" is horrifying. Build reliable products and the loyalty and sales will take care of themselves. Unfortunately many corporations only think of quarterly profits as opposed to long term profits, because they have to please their stockholders. It's sad. Why do you think such noise was made over HDTV (hyped-delayed television) because televisions were lasting too long. These greedy corporations want us to buy stuff constantly. Many of them don't want products lasting a long time, cause they can't make money that way, so they claim. Remember the television industry. When Sony Trinitron was introduced in 1969/70 ? It had a picture that could stop a customer from clear across the sales floor. My Sony TV lasted 19 years before showing any functioning problems. This is how Japan knows how to compete. Make it much better and make it last, then perhaps they'll taper off a bit, but I don't think by much. ____________________ reference text:::: gagrice wrote We are in a throw away society. And cars are just that. Use till something breaks and chuck it
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 07, 2007 8:37 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 8:43 pm)  "Toyota been pretty good to meee".
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 8:43 pm) At least Toyota turned it around and gave us what we wanted even if their quality is starting to slip a little bit now. GM just continued to suck us into their cesspool without ever turning it around until now, how pathetic-- They're just now turning it around. Why are we supposed to find that delay to be acceptable? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 3:14 pm) My wife does not like the angular lines on the Cadillacs. I guess it appeals to a younger crowd. I drove the 2007 Escalade which was very nice. Except the seats are so much harder than the 2006 and older models. The one I drove was near $70k and the 2006 with 21k miles was $40k. Too big of a hit for me to accept. That is what I am seeing with all the big luxury SUVs. Including the Lexus that is supposed to have great resale. Yeah, that is a heck of a drop in one MY  Rocky |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 9:05 am) Isuzu, Suzuki, and Chrysler are others who extended their warranties without the Hyundai fine print making the warranty void if selling or trading in before the 10 year powertrain warranty expired. I see the trend continuing with Toyota joining the field in the next couple of years. Could it be that Toyota's recent slide in reliability/recalls have given them reason to not implement right now?
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