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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 1:57 pm)

Has she seen the new 07's ??????
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by kratas101
Apr 07, 2007 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 1:57 pm)

gagrice you do know that every GM certified used vehicle now carries a 5yr/100k warranty from their date first date of in service right?
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Re: History gives us a clue [kratas101] by gagrice
Apr 07, 2007 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: kratas101 (Apr 07, 2007 3:01 pm)

That is the factory standard warranty. I would assume the Certified 6 & 100k is some extended warranty. The salesman was very proud of the fact that it was B to B with no deductible. I am sure that was from original date of sale.
 
Rocky,
My wife does not like the angular lines on the Cadillacs. I guess it appeals to a younger crowd. I drove the 2007 Escalade which was very nice. Except the seats are so much harder than the 2006 and older models. The one I drove was near $70k and the 2006 with 21k miles was $40k. Too big of a hit for me to accept. That is what I am seeing with all the big luxury SUVs. Including the Lexus that is supposed to have great resale.
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If a car doesn't break by imidazol97
Apr 07, 2007 (4:16 pm)
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then give longer warranties. It's not something a company that has total confidence in their reliable product would fail to have. Offering it as an extended warranty to purchase to get 7 years doesn't make sense. Toylex and Honcura should offer the 10 year/100000 powertrain at the very least.
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Re: Brake Manifold [imidazol97] by mediapusher
Apr 07, 2007 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 8:22 am)

I don't know what it is. I used that term because a woman I worked with said she had the brake manifold replaced for the 9th time and she did the law on her Chevrolet Suburban. Did she mean the exhaust system? I don't know. I'm not a mechanic
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Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright] by mediapusher
Apr 07, 2007 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 12:43 pm)

What are you guys talking about? My car (Toyota Corolla) doesn't cost that much to fix.
 
It's the cars that have all the gadgets, gizmos and hoo-hahs (luxury cars) that cost a lot of money to fix
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Re: GM crap ....... [plekto] by mediapusher
Apr 07, 2007 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Apr 07, 2007 8:26 am)

Then you might as well times me by millions. If i'm living in the past so be it. That's what GM gets for exploiting its customers of the past, many of whom are still living today and who have not recommended GM cars to their young friends, sons, daughters, or grandchildren.
 
I've already explained the problems I've had with GM cars. Scrollback and read the blog more thoroughly
 
That's fine, keep wasting your money on GM cars. It's your money
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Re: Poisoned wheat Gluten in Pet food? [lemko] by mediapusher
Apr 07, 2007 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 7:20 pm)

Yes you're right , and we can't grow lettuce without getting cow s--- run off on it so that people don't get sick and die, and our fast food establishments don't know how to fry a hamburger long enough to kill ecoli, we can't even control our borders and sovereignty, and we also produce more serial killers than any other country. And you're point about China would be??
 
If the argument is they couldn't make a standard of the world Cadillac because of the poison pet food wheat gluten fiasco points you mentioned, that's like the pot calling the kettle black.
 
Maybe we should worry about cleaning up our own "house" before we start bad mouthing other countries
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Re: History gives us a clue [mediapusher] by gagrice
Apr 07, 2007 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 07, 2007 7:57 pm)

It's the cars that have all the gadgets, gizmos and hoo-hahs (luxury cars) that cost a lot of money to fix
 
You and I agree on that subject. Although it is not just the luxury cars anymore. You can get all the extra electronic gadgetry in a Civic or Corolla. One poster was complaining on her Toyota that she had bought to get high mileage when her display screen went bad right after the warranty was up. It was going to cost her $1000 to replace. She could not operate the radio, heat or AC without that display. All cars are getting too complex. We are in a throw away society. And cars are just that. Use till something breaks and chuck it.
 
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Except a Cadillac
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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by mediapusher
Apr 07, 2007 (8:37 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 8:27 pm)

Gagrice-
 
As sad as it is, this is the philosophy that GM operated by for so long. As far as I'm concerned they still do operate by the philosopy of "build it so it breaks" mantra--so that the customer will be forced to come back. This is how GM makes their money. Now with the addition of their new 100,000 mile warranty things may be changing.
 
The idea that others may be following their "lead" is horrifying. Build reliable products and the loyalty and sales will take care of themselves. Unfortunately many corporations only think of quarterly profits as opposed to long term profits, because they have to please their stockholders. It's sad.
 
Why do you think such noise was made over HDTV (hyped-delayed television) because televisions were lasting too long. These greedy corporations want us to buy stuff constantly. Many of them don't want products lasting a long time, cause they can't make money that way, so they claim. Remember the television industry. When Sony Trinitron was introduced in 1969/70 ? It had a picture that could stop a customer from clear across the sales floor. My Sony TV lasted 19 years before showing any functioning problems. This is how Japan knows how to compete. Make it much better and make it last, then perhaps they'll taper off a bit, but I don't think by much.
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