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Re: Durability [imidazol97] by cooterbfd
Apr 07, 2007 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 07, 2007 8:22 am)

Ask mediapusher-it's HIS comment. My guess is it's held in with a kiniffeling pin
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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 07, 2007 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 10:38 am)

Extended warranties that you buy aren't warranties, right? They are insurance policies, and GREAT profit generators for dealers. You're betting your car screws up, and the warranty company is betting it doesn't screw up beyond the $$$ you paid for the policy. This is why an extended warranty on a Jaguar or Benz costs more---the actuarial tables suggest worse odds for the warranty company than they do for a Honda.
 
I'd buy an extended warranty if I had a Mercedes, too, but I didn't when I bought the Toyota---the odds are against needing it IMO. I'm playing the odds in other words.
 
On the other hand, any company offering genuine factory extended warranties right out the door at no cost to the consumer is like a developer of condos saying: "This used to be a bad neighborhood, but now we're offering 24 hour police protection".
 
GM and Cadillac need to extend the warranty for marketing purposes. It's meant to restore buyer confidence in the product. And it does work!
 
I'm not saying the consumer SHOULDN'T have confidence in a GM product, I'm just saying they don't have it now and they need encouragement.
 
Smart move. I'd do it too if I were CEO of GM, and if the company could afford it. Time will tell. If the product still isn't any good, extended warranties will bust GM. Not the first time this has happened to a company.
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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 10:38 am)

Agree..
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 11:00 am)

Shifty, you put up a good arguement pal. It's hard to argue your position but I think a lot of us think they are confident in the product and want to show the consumer why they should be also.
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright] by gagrice
Apr 07, 2007 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 11:00 am)

There are a lot of unhappy Toyota owners that thought like you do. It is a crap shoot anymore with any car that is not under warranty. The cost of repair has gone up a lot faster than the average wages in this country. You could say the same about health insurance. The difference is if you are sick, broke with out insurance the law requires that you be cared for on the tax payers dollar. That is not the case with a $5000 repair bill on a car past the warranty. ToyLex cost as much or more to repair as a Cadillac.
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Re: History gives us a clue [gagrice] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 07, 2007 11:09 am)

ToyLex cost as much or more to repair as a Cadillac.
 
So their cost to repair is still high ? I assumed by now they would be at least equal to the domestics.
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 07, 2007 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 11:32 am)

Any modern car is expensive to fix. It costs the same per hour to fix a Hyundai as an Aston Martin, only it's more hours and more expensive parts.
 
I don't feel like Toyota owes me, or Cadillac owes me one MINUTE past their warranty. That's their warranty. 5 years, take it or leave it. I fully understand that when I buy the car.
 
What I'm really anxious about it buying a car that breaks constantly within the warranty---wherein I'm making car payments on a car that isn't working.
 
Now THAT sucks and I don't want to go there.
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Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 07, 2007 12:43 pm)

Well Hyundai, has you covered for a long time both bumper to bumper 6/60K and 10/100K powertrain. GM, also has a decent powertrain warranty 5/100K and in the case of Buick, Cadillac, Saab, they have a 4/50K warranty bumper to bumper.
 
I thought I read on this site hyundai, ranked at the top in reliabilty scores ? I could be wrong. I know they rank among the leaders.
 
I still think it's like dice, luck with the throw.
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by gagrice
Apr 07, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 1:16 pm)

The Caddy dealer near me gives 6 year 100k mile bumper to bumper $0 deductible with every Certified used Cadillac. That is the reason I tried talking my wife into the 2006 White Diamond Escalade. She just does not like the looks. Prefers the Denali Yukon or Envoy. She also likes the GL by MB.

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