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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: History gives us a clue [bumpy] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Apr 07, 2007 3:29 am)

My family never cared much for him also. He and Roger, came from the same Hen House philosophy wise
 
Rocky
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by lemko
Apr 07, 2007 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 07, 2007 3:39 am)

Lee Iacocca had a better description of Thomas Murphy. He called him a horse's (expletive deleted)!
 
My own description of Roger Smith is that he was one of the 20th Century's worst monsters. He belongs in the same category as Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin.
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Re: Is there a standard in the World [lokki] by poncho167
Apr 07, 2007 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Apr 06, 2007 12:05 pm)

Unfortunately I was not able to find these sources that I should have saved. I do recall Porsche being #1, with Luxas or Cadillac #2, Buick and two others in the top 5. The Korean Hyundai as a car line was not good in this study even though Sonata was top rated in initial quality.
 
The JD Power 2006 dependability study for the number of problems per vehicle had Lexus #1. Here is a partial list of the top ones with an industry average of 227.
 
2006 Nameplate Ranking
    Problems per 100 Vehicles
  
    Lexus 136
    Mercury 151
    Buick 153
    Cadillac 163
    Toyota 179
    Acura 184
    Honda 194
    Jaguar 210
    BMW 212
    Infiniti 215
    Lincoln 220
    Ford 224
    Oldsmobile 224
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by gagrice
Apr 07, 2007 (7:15 am)
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In all fairness to the times of the ill fated Cimarron, the auto industry was in chaos. CAFE standards were there and a big fines were tacked on all automakers that did not keep to that average in their fleet. A company like Cadillac was not exempt because they only built tuna boats. I think we forget that Toyota and Honda cars were not that great in the 1980s either. Toyota is living on the reliable cars they built during the 1990s and early 21st century. Times are a changing. If these other brands are so much better than Cadillac, why are they not matching the warranty offered by GM. If Lexus is so reliable they should not hesitate to offer 7 years 100k miles without paying a gob of money extra.
 
My local Caddy dealer has low mileage certified Cadillacs with 6 years and 100k miles on the lot for normal dealer TMV prices. I think a used Caddy is the most bang for the luxury buck going. Though I have found you can buy year old LX470 $15 grand under trade-in TMV, here in San Diego. They were so over priced anyway. Neighbor bought a perfect 2006 LX470 with 20k miles for $33,500. Dealer offered less in trade on a new Lexus.
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Re: Is there a standard in the World [poncho167] by poncho167
Apr 07, 2007 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Apr 07, 2007 7:02 am)

lokki, I believe the information that has eluded me was either from JD Power or Wards Automotive studies. I will try and save information in the future. JD Power's website was of no use. I think they want you to subscribe for the info.
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Re: Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? [mediapusher] by cooterbfd
Apr 07, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 6:42 pm)

Gee, no backlash to Chinese built Buicks, huh?
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Re: Durability [mediapusher] by cooterbfd
Apr 07, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 5:58 pm)

I have not had anything weird go wrong with the car, like brake manifolds falling off or water pump failing, or head gaskets blowing, etc...crankshaft suddenly falling, etc..
 
I can see the head gasket, but everything else in this quote is MINOR compared to a transmission. 23 years of driving GM products and I have NEVER replaced a tranny, or any other MAJOR component. 's, I THINK NOT!!!!
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Re: Durability [cooterbfd] by imidazol97
Apr 07, 2007 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Apr 07, 2007 8:13 am)

>brake manifolds
 
What's a brake manifold?

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