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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: CTS looks like rehashed version of 80's Eldorado [lemko] by mediapusher
Apr 06, 2007 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 7:52 pm)

Yes, that's what I mean. And I don't think Cadillac realizes how anxious people are for this car.
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You mean the diminutive 1986-era Seville as it was a four-door. The Eldorado was a coupe. The CTS is exponentially nicer than either. I get a magazine from the Cadillac-LaSalle club and an article showed a beautiful red CTS finished in Passion Red. The car is too small for me, but it would make an awesome ride for my girlfriend.
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Re: CTS looks like rehashed version of 80's Eldorado [mediapusher] by lemko
Apr 06, 2007 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 7:58 pm)

I think Cadillac is wasting it's time with the 2007 CTS. They should bring the 2008 out early. I don't have a problem with the current car, but - wow - the 2008 is so much nicer!
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Re: 2008 CTS- Release the darn thang already! :| [lemko] by mediapusher
Apr 06, 2007 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 8:10 pm)

Again lemko, that's one of GM's/ Cadillac's continuing problem. You know, I know, everyone else knows, but they don't know...
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 8:58 pm)
 
I think Cadillac is wasting it's time with the 2007 CTS. They should bring the 2008 out early. I don't have a problem with the current car, but - wow - the 2008 is so much nicer!
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Re: CTS looks like rehashed version of 80's Eldorado [lemko] by rockylee
Apr 06, 2007 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 8:10 pm)

The 08' CTS, is still on my radar. I can't wait to get a confirmed date on the release of the CTS-V, and how much ?
 
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History gives us a clue by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 06, 2007 (9:31 pm)
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GM got into trouble, and especially Cadillac, because Americans didn't buy their products...so really the distress of the Big 2.5 today is simply the historical result of the most massive consumer boycott in American history during the 1980s....your parents voted with their checkbooks to buy more and more foreign cars because they were better.
 
It's quite possible that brands like Toyota and Honda are riding on brand equity rather than any significant superiority, but that brand equity is worth billions and Cadillac doesn't have it anymore....gave it away to the Germans and the Japanese.,,, much like the British motorcycle industry gave it away to the Japanese in the 1970s. Harley Davidson kept its brand equity through some shrewd marketing and great styling, even though their products are as mediocre as ever.
 
GM didn't try to save Cadillac by being shrewd or clever in either marketing or styling---if anything, GM helped the Japanese and Germans by being so gutless in protecting Cadillac from losing its prestige IMO. The abuse of the Cadillac brand is a black mark in GM history and it was an incredible blunder.
 
 
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Re: History gives us a clue [Mr_Shiftright] by rockylee
Apr 06, 2007 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 06, 2007 9:31 pm)

Shifty, you can think Roger Smith for the 1980's Cadillac's
 
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Re: History gives us a clue [rockylee] by bumpy
Apr 07, 2007 (3:29 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 10:18 pm)

Late '80s and early '90s Cadillacs. Given the lead times and delays in product design at GM back then, the V-864 and Cimmaron belong to this guy.
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Re: History gives us a clue [bumpy] by rockylee
Apr 07, 2007 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Apr 07, 2007 3:29 am)

My family never cared much for him also. He and Roger, came from the same Hen House philosophy wise
 
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