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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? by mediapusher
Apr 06, 2007 (6:42 pm)
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Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? They don't need to build them in the U.S.A. anyway. And they're already building many in China and Canada, already. The Chinese version of the Buick Lacrosse is built there....Then they could just export them here. That might improve the quality of their products.
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Re: Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? [mediapusher] by rockylee
Apr 06, 2007 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 6:42 pm)

So you are essentially saying that UAW, workers don't have the brain power to build quality products ????? Well the Lucerne, 08 CTS, Aura, Silverado, Tahoe, look like quality vehicles to me and that's not all of them just a few.
 
If GM, built buicks in China, people like myself who are "buy american" types with good jobs would not buy chinese made buicks.
 
Rocky
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Re: If GM built in China you wouldn't buy?? [rockylee] by mediapusher
Apr 06, 2007 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 6:58 pm)

I didn't say that, you said that...and if that's the case why do you buy the following vehicles listed below. Many of them are either made in Canada or Mexico, not the U.S.A.:
 
The following vehicles are Made in Canada:
Buick Lacrosse, Acura MDX
Chevrolet Impala, Honda Civic*
Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Honda Pilot*
Chevrolet Silverado*, Honda Ridgeline
Chrysler 300, Lexus RX350*
Chrysler Minivans* , Toyota Matrix
Dodge Charger, Toyota Corolla*
Ford Crown Victoria, GMC Sierra*
Pontiac Grand Prix, Chevrolet Silverado
  
The following vehicles are made in Mexico:
Buick Rendezvous, Cadillac Escalade ESV & EXT
Chevrolet Avalanche, Honda Accord*
Chevrolet HHR, Nissan Sentra
Cheveolet Silverado*, Toyota Tacoma
Chevrolet Suburban*, Volkswagen Jetta
Chrysler PT Cruiser, Volkswagen Beetle (Updated Release)
Dodge Ram*, Ford F-Series*
Ford Fusion, GMC Yukon*
Lincoln MKZ, Mercury Milan
  
The following vehicle is made in South Korea:
Chevrolet Aveo
  
* = Built in More than one country
  
All of the other USA nameplate cars are only built in the U.S.A.
  
Furthermore, the headquarters of DaimlerChrysler is in Germany.
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by rockylee Apr 06, 2007 (7:58 pm)
Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 7:42 pm)
 
So you are essentially saying that UAW, workers don't have the brain power to build quality products ????? Well the Lucerne, 08 CTS, Aura, Silverado, Tahoe, look like quality vehicles to me and that's not all of them just a few.
  
If GM, built buicks in China, people like myself who are "buy american" types with good jobs would not buy chinese made buicks.
  
Rocky
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Re: Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? [rockylee] by lemko
Apr 06, 2007 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 6:58 pm)

I hope the UAW DOES succeed in unionizing Toyota's North American plants. Then rabid Toyotaphiles can eat their hats when their precious Camries are assembled by UAW labor. Chances are the Corolla media is driving was assembled in the GM-Toyota joint plant in California which is manned by the UAW.
 
I sure wouldn't trust any Chinese-made vehicle when the Chinese can't even get the formula for pet food straight. Seems our cats and dogs are dying due to pet food components sourced from over there.
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Re: If GM built in China you wouldn't buy?? [mediapusher] by rockylee
Apr 06, 2007 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 7:18 pm)

Well not all those vehicles are just made in Mexico or Canada, as an example the Silverado also is made in Ft. Wayne, Indiana.
 
I will also will add I'd rather buy a car made in Canada, than in China.
 
As far as your comment goes about GM, should build in China, so they get their quality up sounded like a cheap shot. But I'll leave it alone.
 
Rocky
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Re: Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? [lemko] by rockylee
Apr 06, 2007 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 7:20 pm)

So that's where the pet food is coming from lemko ? Wasn't it sold at Walley World stores ?
 
Back to Cadillac, I have a question to ask lemko. Do you like the changes made to the 2008' STS ?
 
Rocky
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Re: If GM built in China you wouldn't buy?? [rockylee] by mediapusher
Apr 06, 2007 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 7:24 pm)

Well the quality certainly doesn't seem to be up to par when they're built here, so what do you suggest?. I say have them built in Canada. And it wasn't a cheap shot..I was trying to think of the best solution...If GM is doing so great we wouldn't be having this standard of the world discussion, now would we? You don't see anyone asking if Lexus is going to be standard of the world do you?, cause they'd be embarrassed that there would be too many yes's or "they already are's"
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Re: Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? [rockylee] by lemko
Apr 06, 2007 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 06, 2007 7:27 pm)

The company subject to the pet food recalls is called MenuFoods who manufactures all kinds of grades of pet food from the cheap Sav-A-Lot brand to upscale brands like Eukanuba and Iams. I understand it is limited mostly to wet foods like that in cans and foil packets.
 
I love the changes done to the CTS. What was done to the STS? The DTS is the car that's currently on my radar.
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Re: CTS looks like rehashed version of 80's Eldorado [lemko] by mediapusher
Apr 06, 2007 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 06, 2007 7:39 pm)

Although it looks very nice the new 2008 Cadillac CTS looks like a rehashed version of the late 80's short sized Eldorados
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Re: CTS looks like rehashed version of 80's Eldorado [mediapusher] by lemko
Apr 06, 2007 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Apr 06, 2007 7:43 pm)

You mean the diminutive 1986-era Seville as it was a four-door. The Eldorado was a coupe. The CTS is exponentially nicer than either. I get a magazine from the Cadillac-LaSalle club and an article showed a beautiful red CTS finished in Passion Red. The car is too small for me, but it would make an awesome ride for my girlfriend.

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