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#2528 of 6195 Re: no joy... ( 2008 STS ) [rayainsw]
Apr 03, 2007 (1:59 pm)
I think Cadillac considers the STS their top of the line model, and they are trying to price the performance version as high as possible. The problem is that the STS is not quite worth the price with the interior as it is. Even if they repackaged stuff the way you would like, the price tag would probably be higher for the base car, and the performance stuff would be higher too, so you would probably still pay around $58,000.
#2529 of 6195 Re: Trucks at Cadillac [62vetteefp]
Apr 03, 2007 (2:15 pm)
My opinion is that the basic Yukon could be replaced with the Acadia, leaving the Yukon XL. Since a lot of people buy these to tow, they should offer the heavy duty transmission with the base, not just on the heavy duty 3/4 ton version. Or only offer the heavy duty one.
#2530 of 6195 Re: Trucks at Cadillac [sls002]
Apr 03, 2007 (9:22 pm)
Don't forget that GM left room in the LAMBDA for a V8. Probably the one powering the Impala SS or Grand prix GXP.
I'm excited about a Acadia Denali, Redline [on the] Outlook , or Enclave Super.
I hope chevy doesn't get a lambda. I hope GM polishes up the Equinox 1st. A 270hp 3.6lv6 and AWD sounds great for cadillac and chevy. Give it cadillacs new style, a 6speed automanual, AWD, and a price around $30k-$35k and gm has something for the RDX, X3, MKX, ect.
I'll call it the Cadillac JRX.
The Extend version with 7 passengers [used as Suzuki XL-7] could be the Equinox 7 or JRX 7
#2531 of 6195 Re: Lexus Crap [gagrice]
Apr 04, 2007 (6:25 pm)
Lexus has also put out some real crap cars like the GS and IS series
I'd have to agree with you here. The first generation Lexus IS was nothing more than a cosmetically engineered Toyota Corolla. It wasn't bad, but it certainly was not worthy of the regal Lexus badge. Not surprsingly, I don't think they sold well. This is what happens when a company tries to appeal to every market, just like McDonalds has tried to do.
#2532 of 6195 Quality Still Not Up to Par
Apr 04, 2007 (7:02 pm)
I was going to rent a Cadillac STS last weekend for a drive to San Diego but there were none available. So I rented a Chevrolet Impala with 6,000 miles on it. There have been complaints that my posts on this discussion group board regarding the quality of GM's products are delusional because gee, GM has changed for the better--- NOT. LOL!
After driving that piece of junk they call the Chevrolet Impala, I can see that very little if anything has changed when it comes to GM's sloppy craftsmanship and engineering, if that's what you want to call it. Below is a critique of things I noticed about the car:
1. Loose fitting body panels on the exterior and interior of the automobile
2. Serious problems with weight distribution and car body lean. This makes the car difficult to maneuver and handle. I'm 6'1 185lbs ok, so I know the weight shifting wasn't because of me.
3. "Retarded" lumbar support that focused on middle of back instead of small of back
4. Seats otherwise had no support and their ergonomics were terrible.
5. An annoying and noisy exhaust system that sounded similar to a crocodile mating call.
6. Flimsy and cheap hollow plastic finish on the interior. This was especially noticeable on the door locks.
The form and fit seemed ok this time. That was a shock.
7. The trunk axles had plastic sheaths on them...:\ Why?
Uhh people, I don't know what you call this, but this is not world class. It's mediocre at best. GM probably doesn't know how to build a precision crafted automobile like it's competition can. This car is supposed to compete with a Honda Accord sedan. There are some people that like the Chevrolet Impala and the other stuff that GM makes, fine. The Impala is one of GM's better selling automobiles; but don't try and convince me that the stuff GM makes is world class, because it just isn't true.
What really puzzles me is that GM makes fine stuff in other countries like China and Australia. I was visiting my kin in Australia last year, so I know what I'm talking about. Holden is the "Toyota" of Australia. Their cars are great. This leads me to believe that Holden is GM only because of an acquisition, however I could be wrong.
I've noticed the cheap interior of the current Cadillac CTS. I haven't had the opportunity to test drive this car. I've heard it drives nicely. But's what's with the embarrassingly cheap interior?-- almost to the point where it becomes offensive. That is not world class. World class means performing on a fine level in all categories and being made of fine or decent materials..It should at least be a "man-made diamond" and not "cubic zirconia"
It doesn't matter that the soon to be released 2008 CTS's interior is better, because the interior details are something that should not have been missed with the earlier models. These are the points that GM constantly misses.
Someone like me (and there are millions) isn't likely to buy a GM car even if their quality gets up to par, because of the massive ways they've exploited consumers of the U.S.A. in the past. After test driving the Chevrolet Impala on April 1st, 2007, now, it's really personal, however it's been personal for a long time.
Apr 04, 2007 (9:37 pm)
The first generation Lexus IS was actually a cosmetically engineered Toyota Corolla, and this was grotesquely noticeable. While the emotions you note seem to have a certain snobbish appeal, I'd have to agree with your marketing point. Toyota wants to be in all markets cause it means more cash in their pocket, hence the gross first generation Lexus IS
I know when we parked next to one of those Yugo looking little IS hatchbacks my wife could not believe how far Lexus had gone down hill. In her eyes that was what Lexus was now selling and she wanted nothing to do with them. She has all the money.
#2536 of 6195 Re: Is there a standard in the World [louiswei]
Apr 04, 2007 (9:51 pm)
"The 3, 5 and 7 series have cheapened the BMW line."
The new 6 and 7 series BMWs are so UGLY. I can't believe it. What were their designers smoking??? They remind me of that song, It sings like this---> (They call you MR. personality because you're so UGLY.....) except with the BMWs 6 and 7 series I would substitute the words like this....They say that it has personality because it's so ugly, it's so ugly!.....
#2537 of 6195 Re: Quality Still Not Up to Par [mediapusher]
Apr 05, 2007 (2:35 am)
"don't try and convince me "