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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 15, 2007 12:34 pm) To judge Cadillac's styling changes over time, one needs to look at the prime Cadillac model, which is the De Ville since World War Two. The DeVille has been Cadillac's prime seller, and has been what Cadillac is for most people. The deville name was not always used, as it started out as the series 62 after WWII. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 15, 2007 10:20 am) As for the taillights on the new CTS - they recall the thin, vertical taillights that Cadillac began using with the 1967 Eldorado. They aren't meant to evoke the cars of the tailfin era.
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Replying to: grbeck (Jan 15, 2007 3:17 pm)  So no car company owns the egg crate like Benz owns the star or BMW owns the kidneys. Having said that, AT LEAST the new Cadillac is not a "cookie'cutter" design from the GM lineup...and that's a GOOD THING! Another problem with the "heritage thing", aside from little link to the past, is that Cadillac has no performance history, (racing, sedan racing, hill climbs, rallyes, etc) except maybe in rock and roll songs. So really Cadillac has to rely on the "glam" image from the past---that's all it has going in terms of accessible "history" (what anyone can remember) as far as the general public is concerned. |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 13, 2007 3:37 am) You've crossed the line dude. I've had my computer down for about a week and have been trying to catch up on the posts I've missed on this forum. Dude, if you don't like General Motors products that's fine. You own a Camry and a Accord which is a very popular appliance. I don't see how you can sit here and rip a brand that has consistently offered in their most disgusting years a better car than anything you drive now or ever have driven......seriously.....The anti-gm/cadillac garbage is getting old. And would you please tell me why a G.M. assembly line worker expects to make executive level wages and beyond to put together a car?? ($42+ per hour) My father had a skill job as a job setter and right before he retired from GM/Delphi after 27 years he made $29 an hour as of July of 2006. He had great benefits and a pension and didn't make $42+ an hour like you and the media claim unless you factor in the cost of health insurance and his pension. If you break it down year by year it still doesn't even come close to that figure. GM, has stated it costs them a bundle of money for health insurance per car as much as $1500 per car which IMHO from other studies is quite a stretch. They of course factor in retiree health insurance and due to the past bad investments and under funding of pension and health insurance funds they yes are paying quite a bit. If the company's past CEO's would of properly invested their money instead of blowing it on projects like Suzuki, Suburu, Fuji, Saab, Isuzu, etc etc etc, perhaps those billions wasted would of made the current pension and healthcare costs a moot point. GE, has nearly 30 Billion with a "B" to cover pensions and healthcare for it's retirees here in the U.S. and in fact the fund continues to make money and id self supporting. I don't deny Roger Smith, was a bad CEO and took the North American for granted and is the sole person responsible for GM's collapse in here in the U.S. I however take offense when people take pop shots at UAW workers who put in a lot of years and deserve a slice of the pie when they are asked to leave or take early retirements when cut backs are needed because of modernization. Look at this way your tax dollars won't be used to support my GM family members on medicare or medicaid.  My point is yes GM, has made some mistakes in the past. however should we not move forward and admit General Motors is at least offering the consumers of this counry some handsome products finally ???? The 2008' Cadillac CTS is just one of many examples that are out or will be rolling down the assembly line. If you want to live in the past you have the right to do so.  I however wished you'd quit with your anti-GM smear campaign and contribute something positive to this forum. If you don't want to I wished you'd at least be mature enough and leave because I'm yet to see one positive remark from you in the 352 posts I've missed posted on this forum. Thanx, and have a great day !  Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 15, 2007 5:52 pm) |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 13, 2007 9:05 am) That's the smartest thing said in the last 150+ posts I've read...... Rocky |
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 15, 2007 5:52 pm) Some people are a "One Note Samba" to name an old song. Check your email box, Rock.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 15, 2007 5:54 pm) Again, let's compare apples to apples shall we? Just like today I would definitely stand up and object if I see someone is trying to compare an Acura TL to say a Chevy Impala or Malibu even though I am in here known for as the "imports lover" and "domestics basher". |
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Some time ago I posted that I thought Cadillac would be foolish to build the V-16 at this time of sensitivity to gas guzzling cars....but I think I was wrong... Really, Cadillac's only card to play to gain more prestige is the glamor car, the exclusivity card. They don't have a heritage card and they don't have a racing card, but they do still have a history of American-style glamor and foreign owner "opulence". It was the car of "pleasure-seekers". Therefore, I think Cadillac SHOULD build this car, in the following way and for the following reasons: I think Cadillac should build a V-16 FOUR door luxury car, in both short and long wheelbase. It should be glamorous and fast and should be filled with every conceivable gadget known to mankind. It will be a Maybach but with a plunging neckline and bulging muscles, not an undertaker's car. This car won't be for profit. It will be built in very small numbers and sold only ONLY to the most highly visible and "worthy" glamorous, powerful, rich people. (This is essentially what Ferrari does with cars like the Enzo, etc). It should be priced at least at $150,000, and painted only in dignified colors. Buyers must agree not to alter the cars exterior and Cadillac will have a buy-back option contract on every car. It will have a fabulous warranty as well and we will NEVER see one broken down on the side of the road...it will be whisked away if it breaks down. A special group of people (perhaps in addition to their regular duties) will be assigned to place the car in the media, movies and at events, and will be in contact with the owners as a kind of valet service. Should this program succeed, a coupe version could be built, even more powerful and more glamorous. It will cost $250,000.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 15, 2007 6:18 pm) Sort of like the mythical, and incorrect, Rolls Royce flying factory techs around to work on their cars. |
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