Edmunds.com | Inside Line | Auto Observer Your Account | Help | Directory
You are here:
![[F]](http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/townhall/webxicons/site.gif){kind=small}
Forums
Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
6098 messages, Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM
You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & claires
|
Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 13, 2007 3:37 am) Hmmm... I must say...$42/hr equates to $87,360 per yr. with no ot. Compare that with the $210 MILLION, yes MILLION!!! I repeat MILLION that Home Depot gave their executive as a boot in the ass on the way out for doing a bad job and I don't see how you can equate $42/hr as "EXECUTIVE LEVEL WAGES". Hell, and independant electrician will charge you more than that (yes, yes, I know, overhead).
|
|
|
|
|
>remind everyone to please stop the "brand-bashing" and keep the discussion civil and interesting for newcomers. If we start digging ourselves into a hole, the whole topic becomes pointless. This topic was intended by the creator of it to be about the future, not the past...at least that's why I joined it. All the world already knows Cadillac's litany of past and ancient errors, so we're preaching to the choir. I was hoping this discussion could end up on a positive tack instead of the old whining. It made a start but is now pulled back into the Cadillac's JANG mode (just ain't no good).
|
|
|
|
|
Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 13, 2007 7:53 am)
|
|
|
Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 13, 2007 7:53 am) 
|
|
| Just saw the new "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit" commercial. It shows 3 old Caddies plus a STS-V and at end it states: Since 1902. It's relatively short, like less than 15 seconds. Okay commercial I guess but kinda of lame comparing to Chevy's "It's ooooouuuuurrrrr coooouuuunnnntry". | |
|
I of course meant the end-of-year rebates and incentives. Even Honda offers a little off on their previous year models, and many Ford and GM buyers buy this way(as opposed to fleet sales and such). This knocks the price down a good 3-4K on most upper-end models. BMW and Mercedes and Lexus... Gotta haggle like crazy to maybe get $1K off. Check this out: http://www.carsdirect.com/build/options?zipcode=91107&acode=USB60BUC101D0&restor- e=false Even Buick has $2500 off on the 2006 models. Officially, ther is a bit off on the 2006 CTSs as well, but finding one is getting really hard(seems they can sell all they make - that's not a bad sign, is it?) http://www.carsdirect.com/build/options?zipcode=91107&acode=USB60MEC021D0&restor- e=false Note that this is the top-end model with all the goodies. Add every bit of option and bling you can, and it's not even $24K.(actually a pretty nice car as it is at $21K) So seeing a CTS in a year and a half(end of 2008/2009 models coming in) selling for $30K is definately a possibility. And honestly, 250+ HP out of the 3.6 is plenty if you have a manual transmission. That's actually about as much as you *want* with a 6 speed gearbox, since cars start to exhibit a binary throttle response once you get over 300HP or so.(though with automatic, it's understandable why you'd need 300HP to move it quickly, though) |
|
|
Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 13, 2007 8:12 am) Who's fault is it they aren't selling well? Line workers can only install what upper management buys for them.
|
|
|
Replying to: sls002 (Jan 13, 2007 8:23 am) Well, GM signed a CONTRACT to pay these people this type of money. My point is what is MORE out of whack? |
|
|
Replying to: grbeck (Jan 13, 2007 6:59 am) Saw the heritage ad on tv. Recall there was a late 50's red Cadillac convertible shown. It seems that there were much much better designs by Cadillac - designs that were truly elegant - than that gross looking convertible with gigantic fins. There was another old Cadillac shown that also was gross, goofy looking - think it was a late 70's Seville with a bustle back. The front and rear of this car had absolutely no relationship, no integration. An abomination of a so-called design. Cadillac has plenty very good designs from past that could have been used. A mystery to me how they chose the models that they did for their heritage to sell current product. One possible rationale is: look how great the new 2008 CTS looks and how far we have come in design over the years.
|
|
|
|
|
Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 13, 2007 8:00 am) Well I tried to get the message across but alas...I'm sure the regular host will intervene if the brand-bashing "rut" continues to dig itself deeper. The host has been most tolerant. We try to be as democratic as possible so please be patient. Sometimes these things right themselves without intervention. ON ANOTHER NOTE: "Nostalgia" in marketing is a quick and easy way to right an ad, but an automaker has to be careful about this, especially in an age of such galloping technology. It wouldn't be wise I don't think for Cadillac to emphasis too much the Age of Excess....if I were them I'd stick to the glorious Golden Age of Cadillac, the 1930s, when it could indeed hold its own with just about any car in the world and when "princes and stars" really did own Cadillacs all over the world. |
|
You are here:
Forums
Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
New? Join Now!
Forum Tools
Search Forums
Browse by Vehicle
2010 Cadillac Escalade
2009 Cadillac XLR
2010 Cadillac STS
Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
Today's Chats
