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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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#1638 of 6098 Re: Overall reliability still isn't there, and they don't care (esuomm] [mediapusher] by esuomm Jan 10, 2007 (1:39 pm)
Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 10, 2007 9:38 am) Mediapusher, does sound like a good investment. Though not the board for it, but we are all over the place, American made trucks have had less competition from the foreign car makers since the likes of Toy, Hon, Nissan haven't made a real full size truck. Ford, GM and Chevy will be taking even more of a beating when Toyota introduces their 8' bed pickup in Feb. They are in trouble. Same reason I am not buying a GM product again is the same many will buy the Toyo truck instead of GM once it comes out. Friend of mine just leased a CTS or DTS (whatever) and it sprung an oil leak in the driveway and couldn't be driven. Had to be towed back to the dealer. He had the car 3 months or so and it has been back twice, including this oil leak. Replies to this message: snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 3:35 pm) sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 4:32 pm) snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 4:52 pm)
#1639 of 6098 Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [sls002] by fintail Jan 10, 2007 (1:57 pm)
Replying to: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 1:13 pm) Phantom IV also predates the 600 by many years. I will say that any 600 was much greater than a plain old Silver Shadow. A 600 LWB was comparable with a Phantom V or VI...and production was similar. If we want to talk about a MB "flop", maybe the Maybach is better. But not the 600. Replies to this message: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 3:59 pm) fintail (Jan 10, 2007 6:02 pm)
#1640 of 6098 Re: Cadillac...and others [fintail] by snakeweasel Jan 10, 2007 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 10, 2007 11:41 am) Just as how a SL550 and CTSV are almost identical in price, Please define "almost Identical" a SL550 starts at over $97K while the CTS-V tops out at around $55K. I would hate to see your ideal of much more expensive. Replies to this message: british_rover (Jan 10, 2007 3:39 pm) snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 3:50 pm) fintail (Jan 10, 2007 3:52 pm)
#1641 of 6098 Re: Overall reliability still isn't there, and they don't care (esuomm] [mediapusher] [esuomm] by snakeweasel Jan 10, 2007 (3:35 pm)
Replying to: esuomm (Jan 10, 2007 1:39 pm) Friend of mine just leased a CTS or DTS (whatever) and it sprung an oil leak in the driveway and couldn't be driven. Had to be towed back to the dealer. He had the car 3 months or so and it has been back twice, including this oil leak. Sounds like my sisters Toyota or my neighbors Honda, so don't buy those makes either. Replies to this message: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 4:32 pm) snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 4:52 pm)
#1642 of 6098 Re: Cadillac...and others [snakeweasel] by british_rover Jan 10, 2007 (3:39 pm)
Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 3:30 pm) He meant XLR-V... Just got his alphanumeric names confused. XLR-V Replies to this message: snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 3:50 pm) fintail (Jan 10, 2007 3:52 pm)
#1643 of 6098 Re: Cadillac...and others [british_rover] by snakeweasel Jan 10, 2007 (3:50 pm)
Replying to: british_rover (Jan 10, 2007 3:39 pm) Ah ok, honestly it is over priced. Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 10, 2007 3:52 pm)
#1644 of 6098 Re: Cadillac...and others [snakeweasel] by fintail Jan 10, 2007 (3:52 pm)
Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 3:50 pm) Yeah my bad. When I think "V" I think of the CTS anyway...the original, and best value of the bunch.
#1645 of 6098 Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [fintail] by sls002 Jan 10, 2007 (3:59 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 10, 2007 1:57 pm) The 600's were for their day, similar to the current Maybach I think. I will agree that the 600 was better engineered than the Rolls. But, the Rolls is recognizable by people who know nothing about cars, while the 600, if these people would recognize it as a Mercedes, would only see it as a Mercedes sedan. This is why the Maybach is not doing better than it is. Of course, the BMW Rolls is a much better engineered Rolls than any Rolls has probably ever been, at least in the last 50 years. What about the current McLaren SLR? Mercedes contracted for a minimum of 4000 units. Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 10, 2007 6:02 pm)
#1646 of 6098 Re: Cadillac...and others [laurasdada] by mediapusher Jan 10, 2007 (4:00 pm)
Replying to: laurasdada (Jan 10, 2007 11:24 am) laurasada- The XLR is based on the Corvette Chassis and Northstar engine. It is somewhat overpriced, but at least it looks like the money. The Cadillac Allante didn't look like the money from the exterior. Also from what I have heardm the XLR is ill plagued with excessive body lean and roll, it's too heavy, and doesn't have a sporty feel. The XLR is overpriced because G.M. would very much like to capture the ovepriced market that Mercedes and BMW seem to capture with such ease. --mediapusher ___________________________________ "Actually, I believe that the XLR does have a Northstar engine. But, like the Allante, it is ridiculously overpriced. In base and -V guise. A recurring Cadillac theme..." Replies to this message: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 4:03 pm) laurasdada (Jan 10, 2007 7:04 pm) louiswei (Jan 10, 2007 7:15 pm) laurasdada (Jan 10, 2007 7:47 pm) mediapusher (Jan 10, 2007 8:01 pm) laurasdada (Jan 10, 2007 8:12 pm) and 2 more... jkr2106 (Jan 10, 2007 8:16 pm) and 3 more...
#1647 of 6098 Re: Cadillac...and others [mediapusher] by sls002 Jan 10, 2007 (4:03 pm)
Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 10, 2007 4:00 pm) The Allante, like the Eldorado Brougham, was shipped to Italy to get some European flavor to justify a much higher price. It would have made far to much sense to build the Allante in the Reatta factory and price it at $40,000.

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