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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Cadillac...and others [laurasdada] by fintail
Jan 10, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jan 10, 2007 12:24 pm)

That's a good analysis. And I don't hate the XLR or anything...it's an interesting enough car, and the market needs more of those. It just needs more polish.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [fintail] by sls002
Jan 10, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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38,000
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [sls002] by fintail
Jan 10, 2007 (12:54 pm)
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38000 Phantoms made between 1963-81? Where is this coming from?
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [fintail] by sls002
Jan 10, 2007 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 10, 2007 12:54 pm)

I don't think that the Mercedes 600 was comparable to the Phantom, certainly not the Phantom IV. Perhaps some of the 600 Limo's that were custom built may have.
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Re: Overall reliability still isn't there, and they don't care (esuomm] [mediapusher] by esuomm
Jan 10, 2007 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 10, 2007 9:38 am)

Mediapusher, does sound like a good investment. Though not the board for it, but we are all over the place, American made trucks have had less competition from the foreign car makers since the likes of Toy, Hon, Nissan haven't made a real full size truck. Ford, GM and Chevy will be taking even more of a beating when Toyota introduces their 8' bed pickup in Feb. They are in trouble. Same reason I am not buying a GM product again is the same many will buy the Toyo truck instead of GM once it comes out. Friend of mine just leased a CTS or DTS (whatever) and it sprung an oil leak in the driveway and couldn't be driven. Had to be towed back to the dealer. He had the car 3 months or so and it has been back twice, including this oil leak.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [sls002] by fintail
Jan 10, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 1:13 pm)

Phantom IV also predates the 600 by many years. I will say that any 600 was much greater than a plain old Silver Shadow. A 600 LWB was comparable with a Phantom V or VI...and production was similar.
 
If we want to talk about a MB "flop", maybe the Maybach is better. But not the 600.
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Re: Cadillac...and others [fintail] by snakeweasel
Jan 10, 2007 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 10, 2007 11:41 am)

Just as how a SL550 and CTSV are almost identical in price,
 
Please define "almost Identical" a SL550 starts at over $97K while the CTS-V tops out at around $55K. I would hate to see your ideal of much more expensive.
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Re: Overall reliability still isn't there, and they don't care (esuomm] [mediapusher] [esuomm] by snakeweasel
Jan 10, 2007 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: esuomm (Jan 10, 2007 1:39 pm)

Friend of mine just leased a CTS or DTS (whatever) and it sprung an oil leak in the driveway and couldn't be driven. Had to be towed back to the dealer. He had the car 3 months or so and it has been back twice, including this oil leak.
 
Sounds like my sisters Toyota or my neighbors Honda, so don't buy those makes either.
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Re: Cadillac...and others [snakeweasel] by british_rover
Jan 10, 2007 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 10, 2007 3:30 pm)

He meant XLR-V...
 
Just got his alphanumeric names confused.
 
XLR-V
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Re: Cadillac...and others [british_rover] by snakeweasel
Jan 10, 2007 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 10, 2007 3:39 pm)

Ah ok, honestly it is over priced.

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