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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [merc1] by mediapusher
Jan 10, 2007 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 09, 2007 7:58 am)

Merc1-
 
Did the Allante suck as you claim? I thought its only blunders were that it was ridiculously overpriced and the convertible top didn't fit at well as many would have liked.
 
--mediapusher
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [mediapusher] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 10, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 10, 2007 9:22 am)

The Allante didn't suck.
 
What happened was that Cadillac built a car to compete with a Benz that was obsolete. So, by 1993 Cadillac had a perfect competitor for a 20 year old Benz design.
 
Once again, Cadillac showed up, but they missed the bus.
 
Now I'd say they are only 2-3 years behind, so the situation has vastly improved for Cadillac. They are a "player", although with a handicap of having a less than wonderful parent organization funding them. IMO Cadillac's biggest challenge is to remain as independent as possible of GM's corporate management up there on floor 14, especially the accounting department.
 
No easy task but so far, not bad, not bad at all.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [mediapusher] by sls002
Jan 10, 2007 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Jan 10, 2007 9:22 am)

I think a lot depends on what you expected from it. It was not a sports car.
 
However, the Mercedes SL that made the SL a legend is this one:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/1955_Mercedes-Benz_300S- L_Gullwing_Coupe_34_right.jpg/400px-1955_Mercedes-Benz_300SL_Gullwing_Coupe_34_r- ight.jpg
 
By the early 80's the SL looks like this:
http://www.scootersofseattle.com/cars/1987_mercedes_560sl.jpg
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Re: Overall reliability still isn't there, and they don't care (esuomm] by mediapusher
Jan 10, 2007 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: esuomm (Jan 09, 2007 4:21 pm)

Esuomm-
 
The sad thing is G.M. really doesn't care, and it's cheaper for them to pay off whatever lawsuits are filed and continue to build the car wtih defects than fix the problem. To fix the problem means they would have to start from scratch again, and trust me that is much more expensive to them than any litigation trouble. Ford does it all the time. Look at all the complaints and lawsuits galore the electrical system nightmare Cadillac Catera and Ford Focus had when they were first introduced...
 
And then they wonder why Toyota is poised to beat them in car sales and volume soon. My Toyota Corolla (keep in mind this is a low end entry level car) didn't start developing problems until 170,000 miles. The problems I'm now having with the car are normal wear and tear "problems", bearings, tire wear, clutch. The rest involves change oil and go. Not bad for a $6500 investment, AND, I bought this car used. G.M. can't beat that. No way in hell they can be that. They don't have the mindset or business model to beat that.
 
--mediapusher
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Sorry you had to get rid of the Caddy. But anyone that think GM makes class cars has another thing coming. All you have to do is look at a couple of those TSB and see that they (GM) allows real problems to go unresolved for years. Last one I saw was for a steering clunk that was found on 7 or 8 models of GM built cars (Caddy, Hummer, Buick, Sierra's, etc.) from 1999 and continued through 2006.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [sls002] by lemko
Jan 10, 2007 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 8:49 am)

Mine uses about 4 quarts between oil changes.
 
What? Geeze, if mine loses 1 qt. it's doing bad. You might have that dreaded lower crankcase seal problem. The seal is only $44, but the labor cost will kill ya. They have to yank the engine to get at it.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [sls002] by louiswei
Jan 10, 2007 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 9:38 am)

At least it's back to being looking like this:
 

 
Saw a white one in the show room couple weeks ago, GORGEOUS...
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [lemko] by sls002
Jan 10, 2007 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 10, 2007 9:44 am)

My garage floor is dry and clean. I am quite sure that the oil is burned. The last oil change was an annual oil change after about 10,000 miles. A quart about every 2000 miles.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [sls002] by lemko
Jan 10, 2007 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jan 10, 2007 9:55 am)

Uh, maybe I got this wrong, but did you say you change your oil every 10K miles? Are you using synthetic? I change mine every 3K and use regular dino oil.
 
Here's a dumb question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Will it hurt your car if you've been using dino oil all along and suddenly switch to synthetic?
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [louiswei] by sls002
Jan 10, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 10, 2007 9:47 am)

Yes, the current SL is more like what one would expect, and with the turbo V12 has decent performance, even if it can't pass a gas station. Automobile had an interesting story on it. It can get from a standstill to nearly 120 MPH in a quarter of a mile.
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Re: Life. Liberty. And the Pursuit. [lemko] by sls002
Jan 10, 2007 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 10, 2007 9:58 am)

I do what the oil monitor says. However, since the Chevy dealer took over Cadillac, and they have Mobil 1 synthetic for the Corvettes, I have them put 5W30 Mobil 1 synthetic in it. I usually drive my car at least 10 miles when I start it up cold in the morning, as the nearest place I would go is ten miles away. So, the engine and oil are warmed up by the time I shut it off. This makes a big difference in what the oil monitor decides for the oil change interval.

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