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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Cadillac...and others [merc1] by nvbanker
Jan 08, 2007 (10:01 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 07, 2007 10:29 pm)

Those are the type of meaningless figures and boasts that GM used to love to make, and once buyers found out that it made no difference in the real world, poof there went the loyalty.
 
What surprised me, merc - is how LONG it took us to get it - that Cadillac was done for, and almost everybody, including Lincoln was making a better car - took about a decade before we all left...
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Re: Cadillac...and others [nvbanker] by merc1
Jan 08, 2007 (10:09 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 08, 2007 10:01 pm)

Well brand name power is a something else. It kept Cadillac going for years and years after they flunked the test of even making a decent luxury car. Most of the people I know that bought Cadillacs during the really awful years were either cluess about other brands or were just the "buy American" types.
 
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Re: Cadillac...and others [merc1] by nvbanker
Jan 08, 2007 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 08, 2007 10:09 pm)

A lot of my friends, die hard Cadillac drivers for years, wouldn't listen after I bought my first Lincoln, and found out they could be better. They would say, "It's just not a Cadillac". True enough, that became a compliment to the competition...
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Re: Cadillac...and others [nvbanker] by merc1
Jan 08, 2007 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 08, 2007 10:12 pm)

They would say, "It's just not a Cadillac". True enough, that became a compliment to the competition
 
 
 
I have uncles that still won't buy anything but a Cadillac, but lucky for them Cadillac really does make something worth buying in 2007. It has to be a "hog".
 
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Re: I.S.L. CTS Review [autoboy16] by 62vetteefp
Jan 09, 2007 (4:28 am)
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Replying to: autoboy16 (Jan 08, 2007 8:22 pm)

GM just announced the G8. However it is a low volume vehicle. I have a feeling Pontiac will be dropping the Grand Prix low price point and rental fleet.
 

Ever since the GM Australia launched its new Holden VE Commodore (pictured), rumors began circulating that GM might export the rear-wheel-drive sedan to America as a Pontiac. Some reports suggested the car would be sold as the next Grand Prix, while others indicated it would be renamed G8.
 
Today, GM confirmed it will bring the Commodore to America as the Pontiac G8. "We are seriously planning to import a lot of Commodore SS sedans as Pontiac G8s," product development chief Bob Lutz told Australia's Drive today at the Detroit auto show, adding that the company could sell 50,000 G8s per year. "We are yet to officially announce it," he said.
 
The Commodore and G8 ride on GM's new Zeta rear-wheel-drive platform, which underpins the 2009 Camaro and the next-generation Impala, in addition to several other planned vehicles.
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Re: Cadillac...and others [nvbanker] by snakeweasel
Jan 09, 2007 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jan 08, 2007 10:12 pm)

I used to be the die hard Lincoln guy. I have always felt that Lincoln was a class above Cadillac, and in those days it truely was. However IMHO in recent years Lincoln has dropped the ball and Cadillac has really made something of itself.
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Re: Cadillac...and others [snakeweasel] by merc1
Jan 09, 2007 (5:02 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 09, 2007 5:00 am)

I don't know about a class above, but I do think that back in the day say like the 80s and 90's a Linc had a better ride than a Cadillac.
 
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Just out of curiosity by louiswei
Jan 09, 2007 (5:20 am)
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Is the presidential limousine always a Caddy?
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Re: Just out of curiosity [louiswei] by lemko
Jan 09, 2007 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 09, 2007 5:20 am)

I've seen Lincolns used many times as Presidential limousines. The most famous, (or infamous) was JFK's 1961 Lincoln. Nixon had a 1969 Lincoln, and I think old man Bush had a 1989 Lincoln. Truman had a 1950 Lincoln Cosmopolitan that was later fitted with a special clear Plexiglas top. FDR had the "Sunshine Special" - a 1938 Lincoln Model K that was clumsily updated to look like a 1942 model.
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Re: Just out of curiosity [lemko] by louiswei
Jan 09, 2007 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 09, 2007 5:29 am)

Wow, so Lincoln had a rich history in the presidential fleet. Too bad I don't see that happening again anytime soon with the recent trend.

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