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Replying to: gagrice (May 21, 2009 3:49 pm) According to the JD Power survery that asks current owners if they'd re-up on their current vehicle the Prius is No 1 in the industry with a 93% 'YES' response. The Corvette is second at 92% and the Mini is third. Next case. |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 21, 2009 3:49 pm) With a 93% positive rating, I could post 93 "I love my Prius" quotes for every seven of yours. Don't go there, Amigo. Just admit you got it wrong and we can all move along happily.
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Replying to: larsb (May 22, 2009 5:54 am) Barry Obama and his ignorant minions will not force me to own or drive one. They have put the mark in the sand and the battle is yet to come. PS 93% of what. Some poll on a rag like CR I suppose. I will accept the Edmund's owners and they are not so easily bullied. The Prius ratings have gone down. The 2009 ratings are the lowest since it was introduced. Toyota has gone in the crapper also.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 22, 2009 8:26 pm) What has one to do with another?
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Replying to: kdhspyder (May 23, 2009 8:54 am) That includes your very repressive views on BOF SUVs and PU trucks. However the discussion got sidetracked with a very funny review of the Insight by our friend in the UK. He does not like the direction the auto industry is headed either. At least in the EU the people have a choice of vehicles that we do not. I would downsize for most of my running around. NEVER in a hybrid. EV or Diesel YES, overly complex hybrid NO.
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Replying to: gagrice (May 23, 2009 8:02 pm) It's the perversion of fact and truth that annoys the crap out of me. To wit... You may like the direction our President is headed, taking over banks and auto makers. I don't. I don't like his direction for the future of the automobile even a little bit. This was done in the last Administration. Your mistaken impressions are based on false premises. As regards the new vehicle lineup, you simply don't understand the new regs and you're shooting from the hip with no facts combined with erroneous beliefs. It's no wonder that you're almost always wrong. Research my friend. It'll do wonders for your outlook. I have no views on the BOF segment at all except what the buying public shows me, except what the monthly sales stats show since 2001, except what the CEOs of Ford and GM told the public last year.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (May 23, 2009 8:25 pm) And you base your opinions on the buying public? The same ignorant souls that pay big bucks for a Prius when gas prices are high, and don't even look at them when gas is cheap. My opinion is now and will remain that well made BOF vehicles are safer and inherently longer lasting. Research my friend. It'll do wonders for your outlook. I do a lot of research. Sometimes your statements are correct and sometimes you spin the facts to say what you want to believe. The poor rating of the Scion tC comes to mind. I did not defend what our past administration did in regards to the TARP money squandered on banks and the auto industry. I listened to hope and change for a year from President Obama, and get exactly the same politics as usual since he has been sworn in. Add to that he has alienated most of the people that still have enough money to get things rolling again. I look for a combo of FDR and Carter making a small recession into a BIG one. Getting back to the Insight or any other hybrid in that class. I will reconsider my view when I find one that will take me from my place of shopping to my home, at the speed limit without the engine screaming up over 3000 RPM. Same reason I hate 4 cylinder gas engines. They do not have enough power except for flatlanders. An engine that will not haul my vehicle from Costco to home without going over 2500 RPM at 70 MPH is inadequate for my needs. |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 21, 2009 3:49 pm) But this is a Camry hybrid msg board, no? The difference between the regular Camry and the hybrid version, excluding better gas mileage, is very small. Whether it pencils out on a cost-benefit basis is another question. The hybrid Camry delivers better gas mileage in a car that is the equal of the regular version.
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Replying to: lzc (May 24, 2009 7:04 am) |
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Let's not turn this discussion into something it's not. There's the off-topic forum where you can get into politics if you want. And PLEASE stop making these things personal. It's hard enough to keep things from spiraling out of control with disagreements about cars. Once you start throwing in personal comments about each other, it's like throwing gasoline on the fire. Thanks for your cooperation and participation |
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