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Re: Money Losing Hybrid from Nissan [shasta67] by gagrice
Dec 12, 2006 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: shasta67 (Dec 09, 2006 7:50 pm)

To me the fact that Toyota will take them back is better than nothing at all.
 
Let me get this straight. My Prius gets totalled and Toyota will come out and get the battery and give me $200? I don't think so. You will have to find someone willing to take the risk to remove the 100 pound HIGH Voltage possibly leaking battery and haul it into the Toyota dealer. You think anyone will do that for $200? It is part of the joke on those thinking Toyota is green.
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Re: Money Losing Hybrid from Nissan [gagrice] by larsb
Dec 12, 2006 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 12, 2006 7:42 am)

Gary, that's exactly what happens -
 
As for disposal, Toyota is a good barometer of how hybrid batteries are dealt with: "Toyota has a comprehensive battery recycling program in place and has been recycling nickel-metal hydride batteries since the RAV4 Electric Vehicle was introduced in 1998. Every part of the battery, from the precious metals to the plastic, plates, steel case and the wiring, is recycled. To ensure that batteries come back to Toyota, each battery has a phone number on it to call for recycling information and dealers are paid a $200 "bounty" for each battery."
 
So while the automakers continue to look for new ways to increase the energy output and decrease the environmental footprint of hybrid batteries, rest assured that the current technology is still a net winner for the environment. However, we are going to keep our eyes peeled to make sure their promises of recycling are fulfilled so that hybrids can stay net winners.

 
This is not just "talk" Gary. It's a REAL recycling program, with REAL batteries getting REALLY collected by Toyota.
 
From another site:
 
Toyota has a worldwide environmental policy affecting every aspect of its operations. Toyota's Guiding Principles and Earth Charter clearly express a commitment to social responsibility and environmental welfare. The Earth Charter's Action Guidelines include these statements:
 
    * Always be concerned about the environment.
    * Business partners are partners in creating a better environment.
    * As a member of society, participate in the creation of a recycling-based society.
    * Always disclose information and promote environmental awareness.
    * Toyota has had a recycling program set up for hybrid vehicle nickel-metal hydride batteries since 1998.

 
It's not just talk at Toyota - it's ENFORCED COMPANY POLICY.
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Re: Money Losing Hybrid from Nissan [larsb] by gagrice
Dec 12, 2006 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 12, 2006 8:37 am)

It's not just talk at Toyota - it's ENFORCED COMPANY POLICY
 
So you are telling me you believe that when I wreck my Toyota hybrid and call the dealer, they will send out a mechanic to remove the battery and give me $200 bucks? I got a bridge in Havasu I'd like to sell. You interested?
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Re: Money Losing Hybrid from Nissan [gagrice] by larsb
Dec 12, 2006 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 12, 2006 9:09 am)

You call the number on the battery and Toyota handles the arrangements. It's not fluff, it's how it's done. They have been doing it like that since 1998.
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Re: Money Losing Hybrid from Nissan [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Dec 12, 2006 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 12, 2006 7:42 am)

You are making a silly argument. If it's totalled then the insurance company owns it and they dispose of it. It ends up at a salver who disassembles it for whatever can be made to generate income, like $200 for the battery, then the remaining hulk is crushed for resale to the mini-mills.
 
Obviously it's not a problem or we would have heard something in the 5 yrs the vehicles have been out. I've seen several totalled Prius' awaiting pick up over the last 3 years.
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From the UK... Prospective specs on the 2009 Prius by kdhspyder
Dec 13, 2006 (7:47 am)
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The Auto Express ( UK ) published this earlier this year but it seems to have a mole somewhere with access to early information. A Dec 9 article.
 
Snippet:
As a result, engineers are targeting fuel economy figures that will make trips to the petrol station a rare occurrence - the firm is aiming to achieve 113mpg! The lighter, more powerful and longer-lasting batteries will ensure that the hatchback is quicker than the model now on sale, with a 0-62mph sprint time of less than 10 seconds. ( Imp Gal of course )
   
2009 Prius ? may require a login.
 
In another article they allegedly has a 'preview' of what it would look like.

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