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Toyota Camry Hybrid, Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Honda Civic Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid, Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid, Lexus RX 400h, Hybrid Cars
#435 of 627 Aug-2007 Hybrid Sales
Sep 10, 2007 (11:29 am)
Aug-2007 Hy sales were much lower compared to the last few months and even less that Aug-2006
when all other months in 2007 were better than the same months in 2006.
Infact, the share of Hybrids among total vehicle sales is less than 2.0 %
Prius-2008 is coming in Sep with Standard Edition costing $ 1,200 lesser.
Camry-2008 is coming in Sep with Standard Edition costing $ 1,000 lesser.
Highlander-2008 - new model with Eco Button is coming in Oct.
Expect Sep-2007 to be very good month for Hybrid Sales, also this is the last month with Tax Credit for Toyota & Lexus models.
Still Prius sales increased 25 % in Aug-2007 compared to Aug-2006.
The YTD sales for this year is much higher than the same period of last year which the non-hybrids have declined.
#436 of 627 Blind say ban hybrids!!!
Oct 03, 2007 (6:41 am)
BALTIMORE — Gas-electric hybrid vehicles, the status symbol for the environmentally conscientious, are coming under attack from a constituency that doesn't drive: the blind.
Because hybrids make virtually no noise at slower speeds when they run solely on electric power, blind people say they pose a hazard to those who rely on their ears to determine whether it's safe to cross the street or walk through a parking lot.
"I'm used to being able to get sound cues from my environment and negotiate accordingly. I hadn't imagined there was anything I really wouldn't be able to hear," said Deborah Kent Stein, chairwoman of the National Federation of the Blind's Committee on Automotive and Pedestrian Safety. "We did a test, and I discovered, to my great dismay, that I couldn't hear it."
Hybrids a Hazard
#437 of 627 Re: Blind say ban hybrids!!! [gagrice]
Oct 03, 2007 (8:40 am)
Call me back when regular cars stop killing pedestrians.
#438 of 627 Legit concern
by pf_flyer HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (9:35 am)
There ARE sounds you expect to hear when a vehicle is approaching. When they aren't there it can be a problem.
This isn't about saying hybrids are bad, just that thre's something that might need to be addressed as I mention in Dangerous Crossing
#439 of 627 Re: Legit concern [pf_flyer]
Oct 03, 2007 (2:38 pm)
Has any statistics been published in regards to how many blind individuals have been injured by all vehicles as opposed to how many were injured by electric or hybrid vehicles?
#440 of 627 Re: Legit concern [pf_flyer]
Oct 03, 2007 (2:50 pm)
Should bicycles been controlled as well? They're even quieter than a hybrid.
Oct 03, 2007 (2:52 pm)
A bicycle isn't exactly gonna make a pancake out of you
#442 of 627 Toyota's Dirty little Secret
Oct 04, 2007 (2:58 pm)
Toyota's 16 mpg Tundra is outselling its Prius Hybrid
The Union of Concerned Scientists is blasting Toyota for opposing a U.S. Senate proposal to raise the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standard to 35 miles per gallon over the next 13 years.
We chided Toyota for painting itself green by announcing its support of an increase in the federal CAFE standard while failing to let people know that the measure it backs is the weakest of three competing fuel economy increases being considered by lawmakers.
In a letter to its supporters, Concerned Scientists says Toyota seems to be trying to have it both ways and urges them to write the company to tell it that it must choose to be either "an environmentally responsible company willing to support sensible fuel economy standards," or "merely another corporation willing to compromise our fiscal, environmental, and energy security for its own interests."
#443 of 627 Re: Toyota's Dirty little Secret [gagrice]
Oct 04, 2007 (3:32 pm)
Gary - I know you loved this.....
But let me temper your excitement.....
There is NO WAY that the automakers can make the 35 MPG by 2020. That is what is being opposed.
It's a TECHNOLOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY when you combine
1. America's car buyers who do not want to pay more for fuel-efficient cars, who, despite the end of the "SUV Era", still want big powerful cars and trucks, and
2. The current technological restraints on making your fleet 35 MPG.
Toyota is joining Detroit in opposing that ridiculous "mandate" because IT CANNOT BE DONE.
In the last 15 years Toyota has been the ONLY automaker to decrease automobile emissions. Ultimately, Toyota is barely trailing Honda in overall fleet fuel economy, and the automaker is on pace to pass Honda. So, why attack the company actually doing MORE than any other automaker on the issue UOCS cares about most?
Even with high mileage vehicles like the Prius available, consumers still continue to demand big powerful cars and trucks. Just increasing the CAFE standards won't do anything to influence demand for larger vehicles. They also responded to Friedman's comments about higher mileage cars being available overseas by reminding him that there is demand driven by high fuel taxes in other countries. Without similar tax changes here to influence demand, CAFE standards will only frustrate buyers by ensuring the vehicles they want are not available.
Toyota DOES want it both ways, and those two ways are this:
1. Keep making and selling more clean cars than anyone else.
2. Meet the HIGH DEMAND in and make money in the truck market in the USA.
The 35 MPG by 2020 is NOT POSSIBLE, so of course it should be opposed. That doesn't "cancel out" everything else Toyota is doing to be the green company it is CONSISTENTLY RATED AS BY INDUSTRY EXPERTS.
Toyota WANTS a new CAFE standard. Just not a impossible one. Read on:
Read the October 3rd entry to become enlightened
#444 of 627 Re: Toyota's Dirty little Secret [larsb]
Oct 04, 2007 (4:50 pm)
"Ultimately, Toyota is barely trailing Honda in overall fleet fuel economy, and the automaker is on pace to pass Honda. "
Remove the Prius from the Toyota corporate MPG and the HCH from the Honda corporate MPG and check the numbers again. In my opinion, Honda is the only major manufacturer who is serious about keeping all their vehicles as fuel efficient as possible.