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Replying to: moparbad (Aug 01, 2007 9:00 am) I would have preferred a Sienna van or a larger Tundra truck but emission was the final straw for my family.
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 01, 2007 10:01 am) Our local gas price went up to $4+ for a week or two before sinking back to $3.97 for a couple of months before dropping to the current $3.75. All the analysis I have seen used $3 a gallon over the entire lifetime of the vehicle. This is a critical flaw that renders the analysis completely meaningless. It is like someone computing investment return by assuming a wonderful 10% gain year over year and completely ignore market conditions, changing tax rates and annual inflation rates. As for the Saturn Vue "hybrid", initial reports indicate it is possibly a "mild" hybrid which means its batteries cannot drive the car without the help of the gas engine. If true, it is a disappointment but not a surprise given GM's continuing reluctance to do anything real. I have been a Ford buyer for years, hopefully Ford will see the light and seize the day.
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Replying to: cdptrap (Aug 01, 2007 1:23 pm) cdptrapHybrid sells in CA because of its dual benefits - low emission and stabilized gas mileage. Numerous reports have appeared in the past attributing the ability to drive with 1 person in vehicle in HOV lanes as a major factor in hybrid purchases in CA. They even stated that used hybrids sold for more money than new if they had HOV stickers since new stickers were no longer being issued.
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Tahoe and Yukon Hybrids- Sensible or Stupid Starre VartanWhat we need now is cars that run on batteries that we can charge up at night from our solar panel This is GREAT, I needed a laugh today! 
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Replying to: moparbad (Aug 01, 2007 9:00 am) This euro-reporter is stupid beyond belief. Stupid people irk me. But lazy people who don't do the work to investigate a subject before pontificating about it are next to navel lint in the hierarchy of sensient beings. |
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Replying to: cdptrap (Aug 01, 2007 1:35 pm) All the analysis I have seen used $3 a gallon over the entire lifetime of the vehicle. This is a critical flaw that renders the analysis completely meaningless. It is like someone computing investment return by assuming a wonderful 10% gain year over year and completely ignore market conditions, changing tax rates and annual inflation rates. This is our best insurance against future rising prices of fuel. My personal opinion is that we will see $6/gal before we see $1.50 again. I wouldn't be surprised to be paying $5 within 5 yrs and $6-$8/gal within 8 yrs. $10/gal by the decade of the 20's I'd say is a certainty. Hybrids, diesels and any combination of the two along with PHEVs will be necessary to allow us to keep using our vehicles. $10/gal in 12 yrs and 'only' a 25 mpg midsizer or a 17 mpg SUV will kill the auto industry.
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Replying to: moparbad (Aug 01, 2007 2:39 pm) Yes, there was a mad rush to get the stickers so people can drive in the HOV lane. Those stickers are done, no more new ones will be issued. The MPG requirement was 45 and up so only smaller cars qualified. |
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Replying to: moparbad (Aug 01, 2007 2:44 pm) . I do have one beef with the writer. While I agree that GM's "mild" hybrid really should not be called "hybrid", I disagree that we can suddenly jump to plug-in EV's. The path to plug-in EV's require political will at the state level and CA is leading the way with prodding by many environmental groups. First, there needs to be infrastructure support. Either hotels need to provide some sort of charging stations or we will need EV Stations where cars can charge overnight. Problem is, where do they all park over night? Do we use coal power from Nevada? midwest? or do we use solar power plants in souther CA? Until plug-in batteries can handle a fast charge in 1 hour, drivers have to stop, park, go sleep somewhere while their cars charge up. So to claim that gas-electric hybrid is "too late" is really naive at best and ignorant at worst. Gas-electric or diesel-eletric hybrids are necessary stepping stones. Even when EV, as we know it today, is fully available, I still see a high-efficiecncy fuel engine (H? gas? diesel?) that charges the battery to extend the range.
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