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Replying to: moparbad (Dec 08, 2006 11:14 am) And efficiency can be measured many different ways, so it does not surprise me that Nissan is very efficient at doing SOME THINGS. MY point is that if Nissan were as efficient at building hybrids as Toyota is, then THEY TOO could make a profit on them. Obviously the bigwigs at Nissan do not have enough confidence in their engineers and their efficiency to say they can make a profit on hybrids. P.S. Your story on efficiency measures NORTH AMERICAN auto plants and the all Toyota hybrids save a few Kentucky TCHs are built in Japan. |
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 08, 2006 12:24 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 08, 2006 12:24 pm) Why do you think Toyota builds all hybrids save a few in Japan? Quote Toyota President Katsuake Watanabe - Toyota Motor Corp. is planning to make hybrid vehicles significant contributors to profits in the fiscal year beginning April 1, 2008. -end It is not 2008 yet! Are you SURE Toyota is making a profit on hybrids larsb? |
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Replying to: terry92270 (Dec 08, 2006 1:14 pm) Too bad for them and for consumers who could have had more choices early on. |
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Replying to: moparbad (Dec 08, 2006 1:19 pm) They have been saying that for a couple of years now.
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Replying to: moparbad (Dec 08, 2006 1:19 pm) What it does imply is Toyota's President wants them to become significant, as opposed to marginally profitable, as they have been, by increasing market share. They have shown that is their plan by introducing, this year, the Camry Hybrid, and adding another two models in the following year. 
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 08, 2006 1:24 pm) "We view hybrids as an investment in the future that will soon pay dividends, we believe," says Peter Rech, manager of product planning for Honda division. That's not to say that Honda will make money on its new Civic Hybrid. In such low volumes, hybrids have been losing money for Honda and Toyota Motor Corp. With the new Civic Hybrid, a Honda insider says only that the profit picture has improved. -end quote They have been saying that for a couple of years now. At what point in time did hybrids become profitable?
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Replying to: moparbad (Dec 08, 2006 3:37 pm) 
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Replying to: goodcrd (Dec 08, 2006 11:12 am) This is a good comment. Toyota has stated that their biggest hurdle now is getting enough engineers to maintain all the operations throughout the world. What are the hidden costs? How will they handle disposing of the used batteries and chemicals used to produce these hybrid components? We will see this come to light in about 5 to 10 more years. What impact will this have on the environment? And most importantly who will pay for it? Now here you need to do a little homework. try googling Cobasys or NiMH batteries. One of their main benefits is that they are NON-toxic. They are nothing like lead acid or NiCad which are both highlay toxic. In addition you might have missed that Toyota will pay anyone $200 to return a battery pack to them if a vehicle is scrapped. So to do your homework for you... There should be no more effect on the environment than say a washing machine; Toyota will pay you to assist in recycling properly. |
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