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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [larsb] by michael2003
Mar 09, 2007 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 08, 2007 11:29 am)

Are there really vehicles that don't have a Neutral selection for the transmission?
 
According to the interior pictures available for the Prius, I saw that the shift knob did show an 'N' position, which I would assume would be considered Neutral.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [michael2003] by gagrice
Mar 09, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: michael2003 (Mar 09, 2007 4:11 am)

How do you shut the thing off if it is key-less with a FOB in your pocket? A good case for the trusty analog key. A lot cheaper to replace also. I know most of the new keys attached to the FOB are upwards of $300 to replace, re-program and re-cut.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Mar 09, 2007 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 6:28 am)

It's a rolling computer. Just like any other computer, turn the power off. It's the same icon as it is on a computer.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Mar 09, 2007 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Mar 09, 2007 6:35 am)

So the Prius is a Microsoft Windows machine? I mean how do you cut the power to the whole blasted vehicle? Shut it off. You know like the switch on the back of your computer that actually turns it off. If the software goes wacky as it is prone to do you may not have an icon to touch on the screen.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Mar 09, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 6:43 am)

If the software goes wacky as it is prone to do you may not have an icon to touch on the screen
 
The On/Off button is in front where a keyhole might be but on the dash.
 
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [gagrice] by larsb
Mar 09, 2007 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 6:43 am)

Virus testing on a...car?
Mikko Hypponen, director of antivirus research at F-Secure, recently obtained a 2005 Prius from Toyota. Toyota (which also owns Lexus) said the Bluetooth used in the Prius was similar to the system found in the Lexus. Toyota cars use a proprietary operating system, not Symbian.
 
Despite re-creating hazardous circumstances, in which someone walks into a Bluetooth-enabled Prius with a Cabir-infected cell phone, the team at F-Secure was unable to infect the Prius. And when the researchers attempted to send the infected SIS file to the car, the Prius responded with a "transfer failed" message. In fact, they were unable to successfully perpetrate any known Bluetooth attack.

 
So no, Gary, the Prius is not a Microsoft Windows machine - thankfully !!!
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [larsb] by gagrice
Mar 09, 2007 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 09, 2007 7:01 am)

I was sure that it was not a Microsoft product.
 
No one has answered the question how do you remove power from the computer/hybrid system if something goes wrong while cruising down the highway? Soft switches do not remove power they only put it into sleep or standby mode. The proof being if you leave the car unattended for a few weeks it discharges the battery making the car unusable. I want to have the ability to CUT OFF the power quickly if the car goes berserk as it allegedly did in Washington this week. I don't think that is unreasonable.
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Same goes for a BMW that is out of control.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [gagrice] by larsb
Mar 09, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 8:02 am)

The Power Button which turns the car ON is also the method of turning the car OFF.
 

 
Same as turning off the key on any car.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [larsb] by gagrice
Mar 09, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 09, 2007 8:34 am)

You know me, I hate to disagree with you. The key in my truck turns the actual power to the vehicles operating system (computer) off. It does not drain the battery down as it does in the Toyota hybrids. There are actual electrical contacts that are opened when the key is turned off. It removes power that is required to start all the systems going again. If I am cruising down the road and turn the key off my truck comes to a halt. Maybe not all vehicles use this system. I would be curious to know which ones to steer clear of in my shopping for a vehicle.
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Re: Run-Away Hybrid in the News #2 [gagrice] by larsb
Mar 09, 2007 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2007 9:01 am)

Well, now that you mention it, I have no idea what happens if you are driving down the road and push the Power button to turn the Prius/TCH/HiHy off.
 
Kdhspyder, do you know?

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