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#159 of 627 Prius..reports of thy death...
Mar 01, 2007 (1:06 pm)
...have been greatly exagerated ( as might have been reported by Mark Twain )
Toyota Reports February Sales
03/01/2007 Torrance, CA
March 1, 2007 – Torrance, CA - Spurred by record hybrid sales, Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported best-ever February sales of 187,330 vehicles, an increase of 12.2 percent over February 2006.
"Sales were brisk at both ends of our product lineup," said Jim Lentz, TMS executive vice president. "Setting an all-time record, the Prius hybrid led the way, nearly doubling last February's sales pace; while the new full-size Tundra got off to an impressive start since hitting showrooms February 5th."
#160 of 627 Re: Once again Prius owners say "I love what you do for me !!" [moparbad]
Mar 01, 2007 (6:13 pm)
I conceded the fact that a CR survey is not a representative cross-section of the general public. What I'm asking is why CR's particular subset of the general public would lead to data skewed in a certain direction? In this case we're talking about the Toyota Prius and owner satisfaction. So why do CR subscribers like the Prius more than the general public? That's the question. The obvious answer would be that CR subscribers tend to care more about fuel efficiency than the average motorist in the US. As a CR subscriber that's an observation I can accept and if it's a criticism I can also accept it.
Here's an analogy. Let's say you did a "scientific" survey of Americans and asked them what they considered to be the best source of protein and the result was hot dogs, hamburgers or steak. Now you performed this same survey amongst people that visit gyms and health clubs and the result was fish, chicken or maybe soy. Would you dismiss the health club survey as being invalid because it was not scientific or representative?
#161 of 627 Re:Once again Prius owners say "Lemmings believe whatever CR says!!
Mar 01, 2007 (9:19 pm)
Last I checked, CR subscribers ARE a part of the "general population."
Which part? People who live in Alaska are part of the general population. Why not just survey people who live in Alaska?
Are subscribers of CR likely to be influenced by CR's recommendations? Have you ever studied pyschology?
Back to the Prius and the news article.
CR claims to measure vehicle satisfaction.
JD Power APEAL study measures how gratifying a vehicle is to own and drive.
The interesting thing is, NO PRIUS listed.
No PRIUS here!
Autopacific also measures ownership satisfaction. The interesting thing is, Lincoln Navigator had the highest rating. No Prius here either
#162 of 627 Re: Once again Prius owners say "I love what you do for me !!" [tpe]
Mar 02, 2007 (11:38 am)
"What I'm asking is why CR's particular subset of the general public would lead to data skewed in a certain direction?"
Because people who subscribe to CR have a certain mind-set, which may or may not be different from the general population.
RE: Health club. Yes, I would not consider that a valid representation of anything other than the health club membership group. Just as CR is only a valid representation of the membership of CR. People try and use it to indicate the opinion of the general population. Maybe. Maybe not.
#163 of 627 Re: Prius..reports of thy death... [kdhspyder]
Mar 02, 2007 (12:35 pm)
You got to love them company men
while the new full-size Tundra got off to an impressive start since hitting showrooms February 5th."
I wonder if he fooled his boss with that BS? Hard to be happy about 21.8% lower Tundra sales. Looks to me like they had about 3 big winners and over a dozen real big losers. We shall see if selling more Corollas & Prii make for a better bottom line. Toyota also keep the lid on hybrid sales by not breaking them out from the crowd.
#164 of 627 Re: Prius..reports of thy death... [gagrice]
Mar 02, 2007 (2:07 pm)
Making any judgement on 13 days of sales.... with reduced availability of new vehicles as they ramp up is not valid. Let's defer til July /Aug when the CrewMax has arrived and been sold and seen on the streets....and when all the stores have 20-50 units available iso 4 units each.
Now if gas continues up over $3/gal and stays there all big rigs will become lot anchors.
At the bottom of the article they broke them all out separately.
#165 of 627 Re: Prius..reports of thy death... [kdhspyder]
Mar 02, 2007 (2:37 pm)
I was curious about the Camry hybrid and do not see it on the list. It could be my eyes though. The crew max better be nicer than the current Tundra crew cab. It is cramped compared to GM and Dodge Ram CCs.
#166 of 627 Re: Prius..reports of thy death... [gagrice]
Mar 02, 2007 (5:18 pm)
It's bigger than both..
#167 of 627 Run-Away Hybrid?
Mar 07, 2007 (7:39 pm)
Out of Control Prius Crash
The car began to act strangely. He was taking it back to the dealership when suddenly the car began accelerating even though he applied the brakes and the emergency brake.
"I could not stop the car. Because of its design I couldn't shift into neutral," Robinson said.
Are the changes in controls in a hybrid dangerous?
#168 of 627 Re: Run-Away Hybrid? [moparbad]
Mar 08, 2007 (5:32 am)
That had nothing to do with the "hybridness" of the car.
The car (as can any car) either had a stuck accelerator or the driver hit the gas instead of the brake (a common problem in this kind of accident.)
And that crap about "having to call a team of Toyota experts" - that was stupid. There was no danger to anyone. Kdhspyder has already explained the safety of the high voltage system.
Just what we need - another story to create some false paranoia and anti-hybrid sentiment. I guarantee you some of the lower-IQ people at that wreck are gonna come away with the COMPLETELY IDIOTIC IDEA that "hybrids can accelerate out of control and will catch on fire and electrocute you."
Oh My.......so sad..............
And this paragraph is SO IDIOTIC:
The driver, Art Robinson of DuPont, told KING 5 News that he just purchased the used 2005 Toyota Prius this morning only after he was absolutely sure it was safe to drive. Two different dealers gave it a clean bill of health - one even certified it.
He bought it "only after he was absolutely sure it was safe to drive?"
Why in the name of all that is holy did he even have an idea that it would not be safe to drive? It's just a 2005 car like any other 2005 car, except it gets better mileage !!! Would he have been "worried that it was safe to drive" if it was a Cobalt or a Corolla or a Camry?