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How many of you would buy an ES again?

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#12 of 41
Re: Never Again [hammer4995] by lex_kolt
Feb 15, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: hammer4995 (Feb 01, 2007 1:46 pm)

Well looks like Lexus lost a potential customer - I was reseaching buying ES. Foooorget about it now.
#13 of 41
Buy again? by saleem
Mar 01, 2007 (7:02 pm)
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I've taken my 02 ES300 into the dealership on our extended warranty plenty of times, but they've always been very helpful problems were radio (replaced 4 times before working), parking idle sound, vent temperature incorrect, and some other stuff. what percentage of 02 ES's have transmission problems??
 
Would I buy again? it's my parents car and it's good for them I'd buy somehting sportier (g35x, 328xi)
#14 of 41
Never Again by ichor0416
May 06, 2007 (5:20 pm)
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I have an ES300 and it has the transmission lag. I have been in several near misses and near death situations because of it. I have driven the newest ES series and RX350 (when my ES300 was being repaired and I had the loaner car). They seem to not have the problem. Too late for me though. I will never buy another Lexus and encourage everyone I know to look elsewhere too. The company reacted to the complaints by ignoring them and denying that the problem even exists. We must all be crazy, huh?
#15 of 41
Bye bye ES, hello G! by es4jb
Jun 29, 2007 (11:49 am)
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If you're happy with your ES, this message is not for you. This message is meant for someone thinking about purchasing a used ES.
 
I dumped my 05 Lexus ES 330 yesterday, traded it in on a gorgeous 07 Infiniti G35.
 
The ES had 21000 miles on it. I have never in my life traded in any car with less than 60000 miles.
 
I drove the car for 2 years and came to loathe the vehicle. I have never had a car I hated as much. Perhaps my expectations of what I would get out of a Lexus were overblown, but here is a partial list of what drove me crazy:
 
1. The vehicle is grossly underpowered. Requires Premium gas to get any power.
 
2. The "transmission hesitation" problem is REAL and annoying at best, dangerous at worst. Punching the accelerator is not something you do with this car. I gave up on using "D" (Drive) in normal city driving. I learned to use the "drive by wire" mode to "manually" operate the car in 3rd or 4th gear.
 
3. The center console displays are black LCD. If there is direct sun from behind the displays are IMPOSSIBLE to read. If you wear polarized sunglasses the displays are IMPOSSIBLE to read.
 
4. The Lexus "Premium Audio" system is mediocre. The volume levels are not consistent between AM and FM, so you have to turn the volume UP to hear AM stations and DOWN to get the same level for FM.
 
5. Vehicle is billed as "satellite" radio-ready which is bunk. There is a button that reads "AM-SAT". That's it. If you want to add satellite radio it's a $1700 upgrade from Lexus. The upgrade must be installed by a Lexus dealer.
 
6. The pop out cupholder is poorly positioned. It's too high so when you have a cup in the cupholder, it's difficult to use the gear shift. It's like they designed the car and someone said, "hey, we forgot the cup holder", so they put it there as an afterthought.
 
7. The center console box has 2 sections. You flip the arm rest up to reach into the deep bin. There is a small bin beneath the arm rest, which is the "lid" of the deep bin. Whatever is in the small bin is going to be jostled whenever you lift the lid to reach into the deep bin.
 
8. The front wheel drive seemed to oversteer at freeway speeds.
 
It is certainly possible that the newer ES 350 model addresses some of these issues, I don't know.
 
If you're thinking of picking up a used ES 330, think again.
 
To answer the question posed by the original posting, I would state emphatically that I would NEVER buy another Lexus.
#17 of 41
What are you guys talking about ? by navtown
Jul 05, 2007 (5:16 pm)
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One of the best cars I have bought and used. I have my ES 350 for a month now and love it. I have had many different cars in the past and I just love my ES. I would caution readers from buying into internet forums too much because you never know what kind of people post here. Some may be prejudiced against a certain make for various reasons other than the cars itself. I highly encourage people to talk to a real person - friend or family - who may have used the car so that you get a true unbiased opinion. Happy motoring!!!
#18 of 41
I Agree by mdames
Jul 06, 2007 (11:25 am)
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I've owned my 2007 ES350 for 8 months and 5,500 miles. What a great car! The fit and finish and quality is outstanding. The ride is very quiet and smooth, and it has a lot of power. The technology is very advanced; Bluetooth, Nav, backup camera, park assist, etc.... I love this car. I know there have been a small percentage of vehicles with transmission problems, but the majority of these vehicles are wonderful. This is born out by the continued high sales numbers for this car. If you are considering this vehicle, go test drive it.
#19 of 41
I wouldn't for a different reason by lexusdriver
Jul 19, 2007 (1:37 pm)
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I bought a used 1998 ES 300 in April 2007 (a 9 year old car) with 120,000 miles on it. I have been driving it for 3 months now and have put 1000+ miles on it. I think it's the smoothest car I have ever driven. It just floats when cruising but gets taut and handles well when accelerating ... atleast this is what I felt. I wanted to get an old luxury car with the best in reliability which means Audi automatically is off the list. I choose Lexus over M.Benz/BMW only because of Toyota's solid reliability reputation and it's worked so far.
 
Now, why I won't buy another Lexus? Well ... if this one starts creating trouble soon then it is obvious why I won't buy another one but if this doesn't then I am going to keep this car as long as it runs. Why buy a second Lexus when you can buy another luxury brand like a BMW/Benz? So that's why I won't be getting another Lexus that way either
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Over Priced Camry by texico
Jul 25, 2007 (8:10 am)
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NEVER again. all those extra $$$
just for the (L) on the hood. they are way too proud of their over priced Camry & over priced parts. you can't get parts from the Toyota Dealer. everything in the car is designed to force you back to the Lexus dealer. same parts, just changed the bolt patterns enough so you can't use the cheaper Toyota same part. you have to use the more expensive Lexus same part. I found the "owners manual" to be the biggest joke of all.
it has the index in the back of the book. look up anything. head light adjustments, bulb replacement... anything. they all say the same thing. "see your Lexus dealer"
 
right down to the stereo. it has this oddly shaped stereo. not a square or rectangle. plus it's about five time the size of a replacement stereo.
so again. your forced into fixing it or replacing it at the Lexus dealer with a Lexus stereo. and don't even try to call the Lexus dealer service department for advice on a problem. the one and only answer you will get is... "yeah sure, we can help you... bring it on in."
you can't just tell me how to get the ashtray out of the dash?
or where the headlight adjustment screw is?
"nope, but you can bring it in and we'll look at it for you."
 
I also have a '98 Honda Accord EX. easy to fix. engineering is excellent.
drives just a nice if not better than my ES. much better on fuel.
the ES sucks it down. both have a 3.0 V6
 
unless you think your impressing someone with the (L)
I would say it's a big waist of money.
 
oh, P.S. I didn't buy mine because it was a Lexus. it was passed down to me. I would have never paid that much for a silly car that's going to drop in price as soon as I drive it off the lot. birds, door dings, kids sitting on it when you come out of the store. eh! I'd take a good ol' pick-up any day over one of these again. rich Womens car.
#21 of 41
2000 ES 300. by strapper
Nov 27, 2007 (5:03 pm)
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I have a 2000 ES300 and apart for scheduled oil changes I have not had to spend any money on the car.I live near Toronto and last year we drove to San Diego and back and did not have to add any oil and most days we cruised at about 80 MPH when possible.I have had this car from new and the only reason I want a new one is because of the safety features on newer cars.A great car and very economical on gas.I have read about the problems some owners are having with the ES350 so I have test driven Acura RLs,Volvo S80,and Infiniti M 35X but all are too noisy, and I am comparing newcars to my 8 year old car.I guess being a Lexus owner has one drawback ,it spoils you so you cant go to another brand.Both the Acura and the Infiniti salespeople admitted to me that prospective customers they have who are Lexus owners find their cars too noisy and have a harsher ride.I guess I will buy the ES350 and trust I am not one of the few with problems

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