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#204 of 223 Re: NOW YOU KNOW...... [66hiway]
Apr 09, 2008 (6:27 am)
And I assume that your OnStar subscription had not expired?
#205 of 223 Re: NOW YOU KNOW...... [66hiway]
Apr 09, 2008 (7:33 am)
> if you need safety and security in your older car is: either install a full powered digital cell phone with an external antenna or purchase a bi-directional power amplifier for your hand held digital phone and connect it to an external antenna.
Examples? Pricing? Source?
Does it use the analoge antenna on the car already for OnStar?
#206 of 223 Re: NOW YOU KNOW...... [imidazol97]
Apr 09, 2008 (7:50 am)
Examples? Pricing? Source?
I have installed a quite a few bi-directional dual band amplifiers. They generally cost about $400 for the amp and you would need an antenna for your band whether it is cellular or PCS. They generally stretch the range to about 50 miles from the cellsite depending on the terrain. You get better range with the Cellular 824-894 Mhz than the 1850-1990 Mhz networks. I don't know what range you can get with Onstar. I had it free for a year and never turned it on.
We bought our equipment from this company:
#207 of 223 Re: Who knew II [jgmilberg]
May 02, 2008 (8:44 am)
Speaking from personal experience, My husband and I are in the market for a suburban model year between 00-02. One thing that we really wanted as a feature was the onstar service, especially the navigator turn by turn service. After looking at all the dealerships who in the description of the car say it has onstar included, what a fraud. Finding out recently, the buttons are useless. I do think the issue will be fixed in the somewhat future, but what about all these car dealerships selling these cars saying onstar is included knowing full and well the service cannot be utilized? I can guarantee we were not once told it would not work until i attempted to activate service from the suburban and found out the service isnt available. I returned the suburban just on the principal that the dealers knew the service wasnt available but yet advertised it was. This is happing all over the good ol usa now. Of course going forward, I do understand its my job as a consumer to be educated and to question these practices. Anyhow, Just wanted to share my two cents. Still going with a burb because nothing beats the room and luxury for the price.
#208 of 223 Re: Who knew II [chicamam1]
May 02, 2008 (9:50 pm)
Yeah GM really laid an egg with this dissaster. I traded in my 2002 Suburban with it's useless buttons for a new vehicle (not a GM) and saw it on the lot advertised with On Star. I think this is a huge problem. In part, because some places are not honest, and in part because some place just do not know.
Aug 12, 2008 (8:14 pm)
Subject: 08089A -- SPECIAL COVERAGE ADJUSTMENT - ANALOG ONSTAR® DEACTIVATION
Models: 1999-2004 BUICK REGAL
1999-2005 BUICK CENTURY, PARK AVENUE
2000-2005 BUICK LESABRE
2002-2004 BUICK RENDEZVOUS
2004-2005 BUICK RAINIER
2005-2006 BUICK LACROSSE
2006 BUICK LUCERNE
1997-2004 CADILLAC SEVILLE
1997-2005 CADILLAC DEVILLE
1998-2001 CADILLAC CATERA
1998-2002 CADILLAC ELDORADO
1998-2006 CADILLAC STS
1999-2000 CADILLAC ESCALADE
2002-2004 CADILLAC ESCALADE, ESCALADE EXT
2003-2005 CADILLAC ESCALADE ESV
2003-2006 CADILLAC CTS
2004-2005 CADILLAC CTS-V, SRX, XLR
1998-2004 CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO
1998-2005 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN
1999-2000 CHEVROLET LUMINA
1999-2001 CHEVROLET BLAZER
1999-2005 CHEVROLET VENTURE
1999-2006 CHEVROLET TAHOE
2000-2005 CHEVROLET SILVERADO
2000-2006 CHEVROLET IMPALA
2002-2004 CHEVROLET AVALANCHE, TRAILBLAZER EXT
2002-2005 CHEVROLET TRAILBLAZER
2003-2004 CHEVROLET EXPRESS
2003-2005 CHEVROLET CAVALIER
2004 CHEVROLET COLORADO
2004-2005 CHEVROLET MALIBU, MALIBU MAXX
2005 CHEVROLET EQUINOX
2005-2006 CHEVROLET COBALT, CORVETTE
2006 CHEVROLET MONTE CARLO
1999 GMC SIERRA, SUBURBAN
1999-2001 GMC JIMMY
1999-2005 GMC YUKON
2000 GMC YUKON DENALI
2000-2005 GMC YUKON XL
2001-2006 GMC SIERRA
2002-2004 GMC ENVOY XL
2002-2005 GMC ENVOY
2003-2004 GMC SAVANA
2004 GMC CANYON, ENVOY XUV
2003-2005 HUMMER H2
1998 OLDSMOBILE SILHOUETTE
1999-2004 OLDSMOBILE BRAVADA
2000-2002 OLDSMOBILE INTRIGUE
2000-2004 OLDSMOBILE SILHOUETTE
2001-2003 OLDSMOBILE AURORA
2002 OLDSMOBILE ALERO
1998-1999 PONTIAC TRANS SPORT
2000-2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX
2000-2005 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE, MONTANA
2001-2004 PONTIAC AZTEK
2002 PONTIAC GRAND AM
2003-2005 PONTIAC SUNFIRE
2005 PONTIAC G6, PURSUIT
2006 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX
2000-2004 SAAB 9-5
2000-2005 SAAB 9-3
2002-2004 SATURN LS, LW, VUE
2003-2004 SATURN ION
2006 SATURN VUE
This bulletin is being revised to correct the ‘Case Type’ in the Saturn ‘Claim Information’ table to ‘SP’. Please discard all copies of bulletin 08089, issued June 2008.
This Special Coverage bulletin is being administered in two phases. The first phase will consist of all U.S. and Canadian vehicles, except the Saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles. The second phase will consist of all Saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles. Dealers/retailers will be notified of the release of the second phase and a new bulletin will be published to include the service procedure for the Saab 9-3 and 9-5 vehicles.
In November 2002, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) ruled that wireless carriers would no longer be required to support the analog wireless network beginning in 2008. As a result, On Star® is unable to continue analog service.
OnStar® has deactivated most of the systems operating in the analog mode; however, there are some vehicles that OnStar® could not deactivate. Although the analog OnStar® hardware in these vehicles can no longer communicate with OnStar®, the hardware in the vehicle is still active. If the OnStar® emergency button is pressed, or in the case of an airbag deployment, or near deployment, the customer may hear a recording that OnStar® is being contacted. However, since analog service is no longer available, the call will not connect to OnStar®. To end the call, the customer must press the white phone or white dot button. If the call is not ended, the system will continue to try to connect to OnStar® until the vehicle battery is drained.
Special Policy Adjustment
At the customer’s request, dealers/retailers are to deactivate the OnStar® system. The service will be made at no charge to the customer.
This special coverage covers the condition described above until December 31, 2008.
#211 of 223 Re: NOW YOU KNOW...... [66hiway]
Oct 03, 2009 (9:28 am)
We had a 03 Cadillac Seville with onstar and were able to upgrade it to work! The ruling from the fcc is what screwed this up not Gm. they ruled in 2002 that analog systems would NOT have to be kept running by cell carriers. I have been involved in 2 wrecks with vehicles with onstyar. To me it is priceless. My cell phone was broken and when that voice came thru I was so thankful. Like all systems like this it took time for it to be upgraded and to be better. Ive had mercedes and lexus with their own systems and NONE compare to Onstar. Ive driven cross country many times and Onstar helped me with everything from hotels to directions to weather and road closings! I found a 02 escalade with 50000 miles on it that cannot be upgraded. I asked what year vehicle I should look for and they said some 02s can be it just depends on the car. for some reason cars are able to upgrade better than suvs. I will not own a vehicle without it! It also actually saved our Golden Retriever when she got sick while driving from california to tennessee. They found a emergency vet for me. I LOVE onstar!
Apr 02, 2011 (7:42 pm)
We have owned several GM vehicles and LOVE onstar. the first car we had with it was a 04 yukon. We had never had it before. I loved the fact it was like a safety blanket that even now cell phones dont offer. Some have gotten mad about older cars with onstar and them having a analog system. ALL technology has gone from analog to digital. There are no systems to support. They did make a upgrade for onstar on some 04 vehicles with onstar but now that they are coming out with the new nirror all you have to do is buy that. Its alot safer than a cell phone. We dont use it for navigation but for the safety. when my mother was older she had a pontiac with it and knowing if something happened the car would call out for her was priceless. and at 19 bucks a month thats nothing. Many insurance companies give discounts for having it active. We will always drive a car with onstar and keep it active. Nothing is fool proof but Ive never had problems with onstar. I can tell you it works better than my cell phone. especially when I was in a wreck and my cell was broken!
#213 of 223 Re: Love onstar [forsythe]
Apr 03, 2011 (6:58 am)
I have no argument with people who love Onstar. I understand what it represents beyond what a cell phone does.
My problem is with them selling a technology and then dumping it leaving their customers high and dry.
What they should have done and claimed they couldn't at the time was retrofit the cars with analog Onstar to the digital version. As it turns out with the mirror now available for any vehicle the cost would have been in the hundreds. Most folks with the older cars wouldn't bother. Would have been a good PR move on their part. At that time GM was only about moving vehicles onto the public - not any kind of customer service.