Article Comments: 2007 Ford Edge Full Test

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Article comments for Full Test: 2007 Ford Edge SEL Plus AWD - On its face, and it's a big face, the 2007 Ford Edge has all the makings of a competitive crossover-utility vehicle, or CUV: rigid unit-body construction, ample 265-horsepower V6, all-wheel drive, cutting-edge styling (sorry) and room for five plus some luggage. It drives smoothly and quietly, and additional amenities include optional sat-nav, upgraded audio, rear-seat entertainment and a monster-sized power-sliding glass roof. So what's the problem? (more)

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#6 of 55 Re: Article Comments: 2007 Ford Edge Full Test [steve_] by akirby Nov 20, 2006 (11:21 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 20, 2006 11:05 am) I gave up on the Edmunds editors years ago when Wardlaw told me that changing the stroke on an engine wouldn't change the displacement. I understand why they tested a loaded Edge, but if they want to compare prices why not look at vehicles with comparable equipment levels? base vs. base, loaded vs. loaded, AWD vs AWD, etc.? Is that asking too much?
#7 of 55 Big mistake by passat_2002 Nov 20, 2006 (11:27 am)
Seeing as how this reporter chose to laser-focus in on the price tag, it was a huge mistake to provide him with only a fully optioned-out vehicle to test. At the same time it was unfair for the edmund's reviewer to imply that all Edge's will cost 36k. The base model comes in pretty well equipped for under 26. Replies to this message: briancam (Nov 20, 2006 11:58 am)
#8 of 55 more by akirby Nov 20, 2006 (11:30 am)
Here is a perfect example. The article says you can get a comparable Toyota Highlander Limited AWD for the same price as a loaded AWD Edge. But if you add the same options to the Highlander and it's well over $40K. That really tells an entirely different story, now doesn't it?
#9 of 55 Re: Big mistake [passat_2002] by briancam Nov 20, 2006 (11:58 am)
Replying to: passat_2002 (Nov 20, 2006 11:27 am) How can you not focus on the price? $36k for that thing? No way. I drove this Edge and was not impressed nor excessively displeased but the whole time I was thinking it was about a $26,000 car - maybe $30k with the nav and AWD. $36,000 - yes, a Santa Fe Limited is a better car.
#10 of 55 Unfair comparison of competing vehicles by mmccloskey Nov 20, 2006 (3:03 pm)
Greetings: There was a reference to the Cadillac SRX as being 'comparable' to the Edge. The Edge and SRX are targeted at different buyers although you 'could' compare them as they are both CUV's. The Cadillac is considered a luxury CUV and the price noted ($37,665) is for the base car. If you add AWD and large sunroof option, which the Edge has, the SRX price ballons to $41,365. If you add navigation and heated seats that were also on the Edge, the price climbs even higher. Not sure why the reviewer lumped in the SRX but it is a much more expensive vehicle when optioned accordingly and MPG is lower w/AWD. When the Edge starts appearing at dealerships in sufficient numbers, then potential buyers will let it be known whether they like the vehicle and are willing to pay what Ford is asking. Styling certainly helps to sell a vehicle, but quality and value are important components as well. Regards - M. J. McCloskey
#11 of 55 C'mon People by cwalton1 Nov 20, 2006 (3:07 pm)
Too much is being made of the prices of the alternatives I gave. I'm not trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes here. The contrary would be truer. This story is not a formal comparison test wherein we score a vehicle on the options available/installed/or not available. I'm fairly certain we'll have one of those in the future. The point of naming each of those vehicles was simply to illustrate the following hypothetical, "If you had $36,000 to spend on one vehicle -- besides this particular Edge -- you could also get (fill-in the blank) for about the same or less money." Some of those alternatives are available with three rows of seating, some with all-wheel drive, some with navigation, some with all of the above, and some with none of the above. My point is this: I don't know about you, but to me, $36K is a bunch of money. Before I were to spend that, I'd be sure to research what else is out there and to determine if those similarly priced alternatives were better suited or not to my needs. Would I need more or less seating, interior volume, towing capacity, or fun in the one vehicle on which I'm about to spend a huge chunk of change? That's what I meant when I wrote, "Bottom Line: The price might be hard to foist on sophisticated buyers who know what else is out there, but the Edge offers a new and reasonably useful package." I'm sorry I couldn't write an absolutely sparkling review for this vehicle (which we all know is very important to the future health of FoMoCo), but every time I found something to like, I also found something to question. I really do appreciate you all taking the time to read and comment. While I'm not insecure in my vehicle assessments, I usually check to see what the public is saying about the vehicle in general (e.g. It's ugly; it's now on my shopping list; MT got a better 0-60; whatever). I'm as into cars as you are. That's why I do this for a living. Respectfully, Chris Walton, Chief Road Test Editor Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Nov 20, 2006 4:12 pm) rcf8000 (Nov 20, 2006 4:29 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 20, 2006 4:57 pm) akirby (Nov 20, 2006 5:09 pm) mmccloskey (Nov 20, 2006 5:16 pm) calhon (Nov 20, 2006 5:17 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 20, 2006 5:31 pm) cwalton1 (Nov 20, 2006 9:04 pm) coldcranker (Nov 21, 2006 11:43 am) and 7 more... efb1 (Jan 05, 2007 2:09 pm)
#12 of 55 Re: C'mon People [cwalton1] by explorerx4 Nov 20, 2006 (4:12 pm)
Replying to: cwalton1 (Nov 20, 2006 3:07 pm) let me say that i, for one, appreciate your posting in this thread. edmunds is about dialog. too many reviews are one sided. it is posted and then others, not the author, debate it. i'll go back read your review again. i'll probably have something to post after that. Replies to this message: rcf8000 (Nov 20, 2006 4:29 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 20, 2006 4:57 pm)
#13 of 55 Re: C'mon People [explorerx4] by rcf8000 Nov 20, 2006 (4:29 pm)
Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 20, 2006 4:12 pm) It's a positive thing when a reviewer responds to criticisms of his review. I can't recall ever seeing this before. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Nov 20, 2006 4:57 pm)
#14 of 55 Re: C'mon People [rcf8000] by explorerx4 Nov 20, 2006 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: rcf8000 (Nov 20, 2006 4:29 pm) karl is pretty accessible, but he had his own thread about his impressions. he has since moved onto blogs. chris, jmo, it would have been better to point out it was a pre-production test vehicle. the brakes are a concern. how many miles were on your tester? maybe you let some other things slide because of that? highlander 3rd seat and caddy srx comparisons were a bit of a stretch. i didn't really like the 'foist' terminology. load up a sienna xle awd. then compare the weight, price, and performance for the extra row of seats and more cargo capacity. given all the 'betters' of others, that's what i came up with for a comparison.
#15 of 55 Re: C'mon People [cwalton1] by akirby Nov 20, 2006 (5:09 pm)
Replying to: cwalton1 (Nov 20, 2006 3:07 pm) Thanks for responding! I would be more sympathetic if you had also mentioned that a base Edge could be had for $26K if you don't need all of those bells and whistles. So a better comparison would be a base Edge vs. a base SRX V6. The base Edge would be $10K cheaper. Wouldn't that be a better deal than either the $36K Edge or a $37K base SRX V6? And please tell me you understand how lengthening the stroke of an engine increases the displacement.