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55 messages,  Last post on Jun 19, 2008 at 3:01 PM

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Article comments for Full Test: 2007 Ford Edge SEL Plus AWD - On its face, and it's a big face, the 2007 Ford Edge has all the makings of a competitive crossover-utility vehicle, or CUV: rigid unit-body construction, ample 265-horsepower V6, all-wheel drive, cutting-edge styling (sorry) and room for five plus some luggage. It drives smoothly and quietly, and additional amenities include optional sat-nav, upgraded audio, rear-seat entertainment and a monster-sized power-sliding glass roof. So what's the problem? (more)


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#36 of 55
Like my Freestyle by vicenac
Jan 11, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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This review speaks volumes about Ford in general. My 2005 Ford Freestyle is exactly as described here. Almost, but no cigar!
I don't think Ford is recovering. It's the culture inside the company. And that's hard to change. Goodbye Ford.
#37 of 55
edge real time drive by dspdave
Jan 12, 2007 (12:27 pm)
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I have had my edge for a week now and in my opinion it is as good or better than anything in its class.The new v-6 and trans are as smooth as silk,effortless acceleration up to 90, what else do you want.Fit and finish are as good as can be.Brakes are more than adequate as is the overall handling. Mileage so far on 400 miles is 21.1 combined.TO all you toyota lovers you better give this vehicle a look cause its as good as it gets.
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Re: Edge's Handling [mark19] by wwest
Jan 16, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: mark19 (Dec 29, 2006 10:12 am)

The Edge doesn't have Toyota's throttle lag because Ford has adopted a variable displacement ATF oil pump so as to provide high volume ATF pressure/flow with the engine at idle but no excessive flow at higher engine RPMs.
 
With a FIXED volume "gear" type oil pump such as Toyota uses the capacity/volume MUST be minimized in order not to overheat the ATF at higher engine RPMs. Minimized volume results in the inability at idle to provide sufficient pressure/flow for two sequential gear changes.
 
The new (~98??) Toyota shift pattern/schedule might require an upshift with any lift-throttle event, especially a FULL lift-throttle event in order to prevent engine compression braking from interfering with ABS or even resulting in loss of directional control if the roadbed is slippery enough.
 
So if you happen to re-apply throttle just after this upshift sequence begins then with the engine now at idle there may not be enough ATF pressure/flow to complete the required downshift quickly.
 
Toyota's solution was to adopt DBW, e-throttle, to delay the onset of engine torque 1-2 seconds, "to protect the drive train", until the downshift can be completed.
#39 of 55
Interested in hearing more reactions by kmauss
Jan 18, 2007 (5:43 am)
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Hello! I'm new to this website and these boards. I'm very casually looking at new SUV type vehicles with no intention of rushing into anything, as I have a perfectly good paid off car in my posession, though it's getting a little "long in the tooth." I have not been to a Ford dealership and actually looked at one of these yet. They look interesting at a glance, but like many people, I am very leery about Ford's reputation. So this is an all new engine? Or has it been used in other Ford cars? I'm a little confused on that point. I would like to hear from folks who have test driven/ and especially bought one. Many thanks!
#40 of 55
It is an all new engine by mschmal
Jan 18, 2007 (5:58 am)
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all totally new.
 
If it helps, go take a look at the Ford Fusion problems/solutions board...OH WAIT THERE ISN'T ONE!
 
Mark.
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Re: Interested in hearing more reactions [kmauss] by akirby
Jan 18, 2007 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: kmauss (Jan 18, 2007 5:43 am)

The 3.5L is all new but it's just an evolution of the Duratec line which has been very reliable for many years in a lot of different vehicles. The transmission, OTOH, is also brand new and was jointly developed with GM so it's more of an unknown. But you do get a 5 yr/60K mile powertrain warranty on the Edge and 6 yr/70K on the MKX.
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Re: Interested in hearing more reactions [akirby] by kmauss
Jan 18, 2007 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 18, 2007 6:56 am)

Mark and akirby -- thanks for the info on the engine. That helps clear it up. I did take a brief look at the forum on the Fusion and I do not see hardly anyone complaining about the engine, so that's a good sign. I'll keep checking back here and some time when it warms up (I'm in the Northeast) I will go test drive one and see what I think. (and post my thoughts.) Thanks again. Karen
#43 of 55
edge drivetrain by dspdave
Jan 18, 2007 (5:57 pm)
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I have about 800 miles on my edge and I have to say this new engine and drivetrain are as smooth as silk with power to spare. I do believe its the sweetest engine ford has had in the last 30 years ,including the yahama built SHO engines.Put this motor in a 3500lb. vehicle and it would really scoot.
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Re: edge drivetrain [dspdave] by wwest
Jan 18, 2007 (8:51 pm)
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Replying to: dspdave (Jan 18, 2007 5:57 pm)

A "new" engine without DFI is already obsolete.
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Re: edge drivetrain [wwest] by akirby
Jan 19, 2007 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jan 18, 2007 8:51 pm)

The "new" engine supports DFI (assuming you mean Direct Injection) and there are running prototypes using it now with Twin Turbos. How many production engines have it today?

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