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#7 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [ronnyc] by tidester

Nov 15, 2006 (10:04 pm)

Replying to: ronnyc (Nov 15, 2006 7:00 pm)
I did some research about nitrogen in the tires and there is some info which suggests it is a good thing to do.
 
I am quite certain you won't get $120+ worth out of that N2.
 
tidester, host

#8 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [tidester] by ronnyc

Nov 16, 2006 (5:13 am)

Replying to: tidester (Nov 15, 2006 10:04 pm)
That's for sure.

#9 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [suvtime] by odie6l

Nov 16, 2006 (8:01 am)

Replying to: suvtime (Nov 15, 2006 6:16 pm)
"I've never heard of replacing air with nitrogen on a Pilot. Looking through the Pilots maintenance schedule there is no mention of nitrogen in the tires."
 
Any local Goodyear, or even Costco will switch you over to Nitrogen for about $20 per tire. The thing with Nitrogen is the tire will not seep as fast as normal air will. Also Nitrogen will not change in pressure with temp of tire / outside.
 
Odie
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#10 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [odie6l] by ronnyc

Nov 16, 2006 (8:34 am)

Replying to: odie6l (Nov 16, 2006 8:01 am)
I checked around, calling several Honda dealers in Suffolk County (on Long Island). Explained my situation (2005 Pilot EX, 9000 miles, needs the 7500 mile check up). The prices I got were $96, $125, $144. I called Honda US up; they were polite but not really that interested.
 
I left a message for Potamkin Honda's general manager.
 
I'm pretty sure the next time I need to do a check up, it will not be there.
 
RON

#11 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [odie6l] by steve_ HOST

Nov 16, 2006 (9:04 am)

Replying to: odie6l (Nov 16, 2006 8:01 am)
"N2 and O2 are almost the same size and N2 is lighter than O2 (28 g/mol vs 32 g/mol) so if either gas were to effuse out of the tire, nitrogen would do it more quickly"
 
"Pressure will increase or decrease to the same extent as the temperature increases or decreases regardless of which gas is in the tire."
 
Eng-Tips (more than you ever wanted to know about nitrogen filled tires, LOL).
 
I'm still dubious.
 
Please keep us posted Ron.

#12 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [steve_] by steve_ HOST

Nov 16, 2006 (1:58 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 16, 2006 9:04 am)
This link was posted elsewhere on the forums today:
 
Honda Service News - Nitrogen Inflation: What's Our Position (pdf file).

#13 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [ronnyc] by aspesisteve

Nov 16, 2006 (6:35 pm)

Replying to: ronnyc (Nov 15, 2006 6:43 pm)
yes, you got taken
 
sorry to say, but these services are all fluff.
with the exception of the oil change the rest you could do with out.
 
I've questioned service mailers like this before and when you tell them the maintenance manual says nothing about all these things they back peddle real fast.

#14 of 15 Re: Pilot Maintenance [aspesisteve] by ronnyc

Nov 17, 2006 (6:46 am)

Replying to: aspesisteve (Nov 16, 2006 6:35 pm)
Sadly, I think you are right. I called them and the service manager was very nice and explained the rationale behind all of this. Now, I may not be the sharpest tack in the box, but I should be able to understand the necessity of $450 in extra work and I didn't.
 
Luckily, there are other Honda dealers around and I think my next checkup isn't for a long time.

#15 of 15 Lesson Learned by ronnyc

Nov 20, 2006 (8:17 am)

I got a long explanation about the charges, etc. Long and short of it is that I should have read the manual and then had them explain everything to me, costs, reasons, etc. It's not like they hid anything from me; this is all on me, really.
 
I figure, I can handle this one time. Just not twice.
 
Thanks guys for all your help.
 
RON

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