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Pontiac Bonneville: Steering Problems

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Steering noise in 2002 Pontiac Bonneville by boulet
Jul 03, 2008 (9:33 am)
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I purchased my 2002 Bonneville (SSEi) new in March '02. After a couple of years I began to notice a slight "thump" when I was steering; initially to the left. The thumping sound (or "feel") got worse in time. Although it had no effect on stability, I finally had the problem checked by a GM dealer. [The car had about 34,000 miles at that point] They replaced the intermediate shaft (honored the factory warranty). That seemed to correct it. (temporarily)
As with so many of the other Bonneville owners on this site, the thumping returned and really got worse after a few thousand miles.
 
Now, when the ambient temperature is above 85 degrees F, there's a definite "creaking" sound when I steer. Sounds like rubber is being stretched. And there's
an additional noise coming from the front while I'm driving that resembles the rubber stretch sound.
[Again, only when it gets hot outside]
 
I'm having the tires rotated next week, and I'm going to let my mechanic test drive my car so he can hear the thump/stretch sound.
Maybe he'll be able to lubricate the intermediate shaft to eliminate the noise.
 
I wonder if any other Bonneville owners have had a similar experience with this particular steering issue?
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Pontiac Garbage! 4 Intermediate Steering Shafts and another new one!! by nomoregms1
Jul 12, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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We have a 2003 Pontiac Bonneville w/87K miles. I had hoped that spending my money on American built cars was good for US jobs but I AM GOING TO BUY a Honda or Toyota next time. I now always telling everyone NOT TO BUY GM -THEY ARE GARBAGE CARS. (I had a 2001 Oldsmobile Intrigue that had multiple transmission problems- the dealer laughingly called the car a 'Friday Built Special' - the factory guys were so excited about the weekend they rushe dthrough the assembly.
 
Now our Bonneville motor has a tapping sound- bent a cheaply built valve I guess.
 
I've had the intermediate steering shaft replaced FOUR TIMES on the car. GM/Pontiac has to know there's a problem with this part. I am very concerned that the part has failed completely in other vehicles and caused deaths.
 
The service department at the dealer always says 'we've replaced it with an upgraded part'. The last time I told them I wasn't going to pay because the part was just over a year old. They said that the part wasn't warranted past a year. I called the salemans who sold us the car and he said 'we don't build them buddy, we just sell them'. I called Pontiac and they said that they didn't know about any steering part problems with any of their cars. B.S. I complained so much he said that they'll send me 2 oil change coupons. BIG DEAL. I told him that I project that GM will go out of business in 5 years- that it's no surprise that Toyota is now the largest car company in the world- it's about quality cars = repeat customers. You can put 250K miles on Toyota's and Honda's before any real service issues. I barely had 30K on it when we started having problems.
 
Well, if GM wants repeat customers they'll do what Toyota and Honda does routinely and recall AT NO COST cars with defective PARTS.
 
DO NOT BUY GM.
#20 of 26
Re: Pontiac Garbage! 4 Intermediate Steering Shafts and another new one!! [nomoregms1] by sacd
Sep 03, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: nomoregms1 (Jul 12, 2008 3:46 pm)

I don't think its fair to condem all GM products because of your bad luck, besides cars fail for a whole host of reasons. If you can tear through a GM in 30,000 miles from bad driving habits, you could easily kill a honda or a toyota just as quickly. Plus, your car has 87,000 miles on it. ANY driver who tells you that he/she hasn't put his share of money into a car with 250,000 miles on it is telling you a lie (I don't care who makes it).
#21 of 26
Re: Does anyone have a permanent solution for steering problems on Bonneville 2 [417445] by ezprocarcare
Sep 13, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Replying to: 417445 (Nov 15, 2006 3:59 pm)

My experience on clicking in steering shaft (2000 SE), 110,000). Paid dealer $125 for a little tube of grease/labor (took 30 min but charged me for 1 hour book time). Lasted 2 years. Next, had independent mechanic lube ($50) has lasted for 4 years. Starting to reappear, will have independent mechanic lube again.
 
Solution...buy a Honda. Unfortunately, GM does not stand behind poor quality manufacturing but continues to build cars repeating instead of fixing issues. Example: two rear windows on 2000 Bonneville have cost $1000 repair due to a 25 cent plastic part failure. Contacted GM...acted like no one else has these failed parts...no help. Having learned my lesson, I have purchased several Honda's (200,000 miles) & am delighted with quality/no failure of parts like GM cars. I once had only GM cars. Now buying cars from people who demonstrate they stand behind them/you can trust. Easy to understand why GM is going down.
#22 of 26
2004 Pontiac Intermediate Shaft by mercv8
Jan 08, 2009 (9:01 am)
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This car purchased 01/14/04 ,Bonneville,same problem as everyone else!!Is there not somewhere we can get some help??Car only has 28/M miles on it and every thing has been done on it,that every one else has had done!
#23 of 26
Re: Does anyone have a permanent solution for steering problems on Bonneville 2 [ezprocarcare] by imidazol97
Jan 08, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: ezprocarcare (Sep 13, 2008 3:33 am)

Odyssey transmission failures
 
>Solution...buy a Honda. Unfortunately, GM does not stand behind poor quality manufacturing
 
Go to the above link and see how Honda stands behind a poor product. They've had transmission problems in models for years and the additional profit has served well for warranty costs. GM hasn't had the luxury of the high profit. Before you pass this off look at the VCM Honda discussion and many others with problems in various models.
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Re: 2004 Pontiac Intermediate Shaft [mercv8] by imidazol97
Jan 08, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: mercv8 (Jan 08, 2009 9:01 am)

I've read discussions about noises from the intermediate shafts. I'll look into them more. I have an 03 leSabre and don't have a noise. I have a 98 leSabre and don't have the noise. I have seen instructions on how to replace your intermediate shaft or remove it an lube it and replace. Do you do intermediate difficulty repairs yourself?
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Re: 2004 Pontiac Intermediate Shaft [imidazol97] by olliepop
May 27, 2009 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 08, 2009 12:16 pm)

#26 of 26
Re: 2004 Pontiac Intermediate Shaft [mercv8] by wigt
Jul 27, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: mercv8 (Jan 08, 2009 9:01 am)

I have a 2001 Bonneville SSEi, I had the int coloumn greased a few times and then later they replaced the intermediate shaft with a new improved one and it has not had a problem since. That was about 30,000 miles ago. We have 109,000 on it.
 
My 02 Suburban actually had a similar problem and they replaced that one too, no problem since, now 121,000.
 
I love my Bonneville.It is one of the most comfortable cars in years. We have a G8, I love it too but the seats in my Bonneville are much more comfortable for long 6 hour trips.

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